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    Extracting a telephone pole

    I couldnít find this using search (which Iím not always good at). Just to keep myself from doing something stupid, I figured Iíd ask. I have a shortened telephone pole stuck in the ground by a previous tenant here at my house. He used to work for the phone company and planted it as a flagpole. I have obtained a real flag pole (one that wonít shred my flags with splinters) and would like to pull the pole, replacing it with mine.

    It seems to be somewhat loose in its hole, in that I can wiggle it with muscle power. Iím thinking if I chop off most of the top, while leaving enough to wrap a chain on, I should be able to pull it straight up with a chain on my loader bucket. Does this sound logical or is it a bad idea? If it is a bad idea, what are my alternatives? I donít really want to dig, as I have underground water lines running from the outdoor furnace to my shop very close by, and Iím not that good with the backhoe yet.
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    Why haven't you tried the loader lifting it yet? Nothing tried, nothing gained. As long as you have enough ballast so the rear stays on the ground, nothing will get hurt. With my 1500# RFM on the rear, I run out of lifting power before I run out of ballast.

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    Do you have something like a "3 pt trailer hitch" on your tractor? If so, I'd probably use that and a chain or two in order to try and pull it out once you cut it down. You're going to have a lot more lifting POWER with the 3PH than with the FEL. Once you have it broke loose with the 3PH, maybe use the FEL to get it the rest of the way out since that gives you more lifting height.

    Be careful if you lift with the 3PH that you don't pull the tractor over. Go slow. Raise the ROPS. Use your seatbelt.

    The pole may be full of creosote which may mess up your chain on your chainsaw.
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    I would insert a small stake right next to it to check for concrete. If there isn't any, it seems like the loader should have enough capacity (with rear ballast). You might also be able to bring it up in stages using the 3-pt hitch.

    (A related issue is the suction created by a wet hole, which often causes problems with manual post removal. This shouldn't apply to your lift, but getting the water pool moving by pushing a garden hose into the hole can help break that suction.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark02tj View Post
    Do you have something like a "3 pt trailer hitch" on your tractor? If so, I'd probably use that and a chain or two in order to try and pull it out once you cut it down. You're going to have a lot more lifting POWER with the 3PH than with the FEL. Once you have it broke loose with the 3PH, maybe use the FEL to get it the rest of the way out since that gives you more lifting height.
    I had a similar issue a while back except it was a 2-inch black iron pipe that someone had pounded into the ground. There was about 18-inches sticking above ground. I tried pulling up on it with a chain and the loader and the pipe just laughed.

    I then wrapped the chain around the top hook on my iMatch and it pulled it right out with no problem.

    The 3PH has close to 3-times the lifting force of the loader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    I had a similar issue a while back except it was a 2-inch black iron pipe that someone had pounded into the ground. There was about 18-inches sticking above ground. I tried pulling up on it with a chain and the loader and the pipe just laughed.

    I then wrapped the chain around the top hook on my iMatch and it pulled it right out with no problem.

    The 3PH has close to 3-times the lifting force of the loader.
    Thank you for that info
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    BillyT -

    I like your thinking on this. Shortening the pole reduces the risk of it falling back towards you when it clears the hole and it reduces the overall weight to pull . Rear ballast is a must have also, to keep your rig stable while pulling.

    I've used my loader bucket with KBOGH's and chain to pull loose stumps, metal t-posts, and defunct satellite dish poles with quickcrete anchors from soft ground.

    Having a helper/spotter might assist; I envision the possibility of your former phone pole falling forward when the base clears the hole. The chain might also need to be repositioned as the pole is removed. I recommend double wrapping the chain to maximize contact area. If you have a ladder and can tie a tag line near the top of the pole, your helper might be able to guide the pole fall into a safe direction.

    Good luck on this operation. Understand your risks and fall-back plan should things start to go wrong,

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamT. View Post
    I couldnít find this using search (which Iím not always good at). Just to keep myself from doing something stupid, I figured Iíd ask. I have a shortened telephone pole stuck in the ground by a previous tenant here at my house. He used to work for the phone company and planted it as a flagpole. I have obtained a real flag pole (one that wonít shred my flags with splinters) and would like to pull the pole, replacing it with mine.

    It seems to be somewhat loose in its hole, in that I can wiggle it with muscle power. Iím thinking if I chop off most of the top, while leaving enough to wrap a chain on, I should be able to pull it straight up with a chain on my loader bucket. Does this sound logical or is it a bad idea? If it is a bad idea, what are my alternatives? I donít really want to dig, as I have underground water lines running from the outdoor furnace to my shop very close by, and Iím not that good with the backhoe yet.
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    I pulled 6x6 fence posts using my loader like that. I used my forks with a steel cable wrapped around the forks and the post. Like the other poster said. You want it balanced so when the pole is lifted out, it won't be top heavy and fall over on you or the tractor.
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    I've always had better luck with 3ph..than using fel
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    Iíd use the 3pt hitch to pull it. But Iíd shorten it first and have a helper just in case. Iíve had way better luck with 3pt than FEL.





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