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    Witch's Brew concoctions for sprayer?

    I'm up-grading to a tractor mounted sprayer this year. Someone put a bug in my ear to add a few drops of liquid dish soap to my 26 gallon sprayer along with the Weed-B-Gonzo. Apparently it gives you a visual reference to your spray patterns? Or, does it just add to the "Sticky Factor" to cling to the weeds? Anyone have any input or personal experience?
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    I've used liquid dish soap for many years, it's a wetting agent. It enhances the coverage of the liquid it's mixed with to flow more freely across the receiving surface. This gives better coverage and since you want the spray to be absorbed, better results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HouseMouse View Post
    I'm up-grading to a tractor mounted sprayer this year. Someone put a bug in my ear to add a few drops of liquid dish soap to my 26 gallon sprayer along with the Weed-B-Gonzo. Apparently it gives you a visual reference to your spray patterns? Or, does it just add to the "Sticky Factor" to cling to the weeds? Anyone have any input or personal experience?
    Dish soap may be better than nothing, but a real spray surfactant is a million times better. It's cheap like dish soap, and doesn't foam. Some people say that dish soap may actually hurt the absorption of spray into the weed. Something to do with electrical charge.
    My father was a crop duster, and we used a surfactant most of the time, but some chemicals it wasn't beneficial.
    My main take away was to use dish soap for dishes and cleaning things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arlen View Post
    Dish soap may be better than nothing, but a real spray surfactant is a million times better. It's cheap like dish soap, and doesn't foam. Some people say that dish soap may actually hurt the absorption of spray into the weed. Something to do with electrical charge.
    My father was a crop duster, and we used a surfactant most of the time, but some chemicals it wasn't beneficial.
    My main take away was to use dish soap for dishes and cleaning things.

    I just looked up what a "Surfacant" is etc. Quite some reading..... Found this line interesting. "World production of surfactants is estimated at 15 Mton/y, of which about half are soaps."
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    Quote Originally Posted by HouseMouse View Post
    I'm up-grading to a tractor mounted sprayer this year. Someone put a bug in my ear to add a few drops of liquid dish soap to my 26 gallon sprayer along with the Weed-B-Gonzo. Apparently it gives you a visual reference to your spray patterns? Or, does it just add to the "Sticky Factor" to cling to the weeds? Anyone have any input or personal experience?
    Lots of guys down here add dishwashing liquid to their generic (cheaper) glyphosate (Roundup).
    They claim it makes it rainproof in one hour like the real Roundup.

    I just buy the real "one hour rain proof Roundup", too much work to have a stray shower wash it all away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Cajun View Post
    Lots of guys down here add dishwashing liquid to their generic (cheaper) glyphosate (Roundup).
    They claim it makes it rainproof in one hour like the real Roundup.

    I just buy the real "one hour rain proof Roundup", too much work to have a stray shower wash it all away.

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    If you really want to make your round up "bite", add some diesel fuel AND some soap.
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    I'm giving RM43 a try this year to see if it controls the gravel drive weeds any better

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    Quote Originally Posted by arlen View Post
    If you really want to make your round up "bite", add some diesel fuel AND some soap.
    Also heard about the diesel fuel thing.
    Have had pretty good luck with the one hour rainproof Roundup, had it rain pretty good a couple
    of hours after spraying, it hung tough judging by the weeds a week later.

    Kind of worried about using diesel in my sprayer system, it's a diaphragm type 12V electric pump and
    they tell you not to use even Clorox in it.

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    Prodeuce

    You might look at ProDeuce which is a combination of glyphosate and a pre-emergent chemical. It's a bit pricey. We're trying it under some electric fences along with our regular glyphosate. It hasn't rained since application and both are showing the same results so far. If the ProDeuce is good for all season, the cost is reasonable. If we have to reapply anyway, it's money down the drain or on the ground.

    IMO, I can't see paying for Roundup over the generic glyphosate. However, if it gives someone else happiness by all means buy what you want and can afford. Either way, a surfactant is a good idea, particularly for weeds with either a fuzzy surface or an extremely slick surface. The better surfactants are both wetting agents and clinging agents. We always used something with Roundup (pre generic) or 2-4 D which is also very good on broad leaf weeds but doesn't really touch grasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Cajun View Post
    Also heard about the diesel fuel thing.
    Have had pretty good luck with the one hour rainproof Roundup, had it rain pretty good a couple
    of hours after spraying, it hung tough judging by the weeds a week later.

    Kind of worried about using diesel in my sprayer system, it's a diaphragm type 12V electric pump and
    they tell you not to use even Clorox in it.

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    My experience over the past three years with a Round-up concentrate has been excellent. I have used it in a hand held pump up bottle sprayer. Many times it has been rained on after about 4 hours of setting on a plant and the plant still died. No issues there with me. Diesel fuel through a diaphragm 12V pump would most probably not be a good idea and I agree with you on that assertion.
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