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    I have a wet area that I'm planning on moving the water thru 4" perforated pipe. I'm going to cover pipe with 3/4"-1" stone then put dirt on top , my question is it worth time and money to put felt over pipe before I cover with stone?

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    In my opinion.... Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boss30264 View Post
    I have a wet area that I'm planning on moving the water thru 4" perforated pipe. I'm going to cover pipe with 3/4"-1" stone then put dirt on top , my question is it worth time and money to put felt over pipe before I cover with stone?

    Felt over the pipe before the stone? No. That doesn't make much sense.

    Dig your trench, put 3" of gravel in the bottom, lay in your pipe, cover with 12" of gravel lay landscape fabric over that and then cover with soil.

    If you want some extra protection, use the pipe that come already covered with silt screen or add your own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boss30264 View Post
    I have a wet area that I'm planning on moving the water thru 4" perforated pipe. I'm going to cover pipe with 3/4"-1" stone then put dirt on top , my question is it worth time and money to put felt over pipe before I cover with stone?
    What Jim R stated is true but I would use the stone you mentioned and not the gravel, (gravel has fines in it). It will drain better and yes, (order of business) stone, pipe (Holes down), stone, Filter fabric then cover with whatever you want.. If you don't the stone will be full of fines and will plug up.. Use the thickness of stone Jim stated. The pipe fabric is nice but not necessary if you use the stone and cover as stated.. Good luck.
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    Thanks. The felt over pipe idea was to take place of pipe fabric sleeve. I like what Jeff and Jim suggested better makes more sense, thanks again.
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    I have tried this,,, twice.

    My opinion,,, water takes the path of least resistance.

    The perf pipe, gravel, and fabric is a common method to build septic systems.
    The goal of the system is to disperse water.

    There is nothing encouraging the water INTO the pipe, so a damp area will stay damp.

    If you have standing water on the surface, gravity will force the water down, some will find its way into the pipe.

    All this work, and money, and the real result is dispersed water.

    A better use of $$$ is to grade the surface so water will disperse before it has a chance to enter the soil.

    If the water is near a building,,, 99% chance the gutter system needs improvement.

    Any pics of the problem area??
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    Hard to tell by pictures because of tall weeds the depth by wide part of drive is about 2'. I bought this property from next to me after house there burned. I dug out some dirt last summer to see if I could improve drainage but didn't have enough tractor for task, tractor problem will be remedied soon. During my digging I hit the original drain pipe which after 30 some years was completely plunged with earth. The original install had no stone around pipe at all. The way the land lays it funnels water to back but then hits the high ground in back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jefftaylor View Post
    What Jim R stated is true but I would use the stone you mentioned and not the gravel, (gravel has fines in it)
    Fair enough. I was using "gravel" loosely.

    Quote Originally Posted by boss30264 View Post
    Thanks. The felt over pipe idea was to take place of pipe fabric sleeve. I like what Jeff and Jim suggested better makes more sense, thanks again.

    The problem with felt (and "tar paper"), IMO, is that it isn't permeable. Water won't pass through it so it has to find it's way around it. The purpose of the fabric is to prevent dirt/silt/sand from getting into the stone and pipe while letting the water through. If you use felt, the water travels around it and will eventually carry in dirt/silt/sand from the sides of the trench. That will plug everything up and then the whole thing is shot.
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    More pictures

    Here's a few more. The pictures doesn't show the dept very well and the length is over 100 yards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimR View Post
    Fair enough. I was using "gravel" loosely. :good2:




    The problem with felt (and "tar paper"), IMO, is that it isn't permeable. Water won't pass through it so it has to find it's way around it. The purpose of the fabric is to prevent dirt/silt/sand from getting into the stone and pipe while letting the water through. If you use felt, the water travels around it and will eventually carry in dirt/silt/sand from the sides of the trench. That will plug everything up and then the whole thing is shot.
    Not roofing felt I was talking about landscape felt that lets water pass through.
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