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    2 range hydro

    i am looking at getting a new tractor and i have it down to two tractors. i am looking at the 3025e and a kubota 2601, i like how the 2601 has three ranges but i really want the deere. Has anyone that has a 3e series get into a situation where the lack of a three range has hampered the work being done.

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    I have a 3025E and have never felt I was lacking due to a third range. My neighbor has an L series Kubota with the three ranges. It's basically the same model as I have but Orange. He seems to like it but it's his first tractor so he has nothing to judge it against. I have only ever owned Deere's. For about 90 to 95% of the time I keep mine in low range. It allows me to scoop dirt and loads much easier and drive under control. I only ever use high range when I need to cover some distance and I don't have a load because the tractor will go too fast and start bouncing.

    If the third range on the hydro is the only thing holding you up from a JD, then I would get the one that is the most comfortable and affordable to you. It really comes down to preference between these two brands. Both make good tractors. I have operated my neighbor's and it feels a little bit more basic and rugged but I do like how smooth and quiet the Kubota engine is compared to the Yanmar.


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    The 3R has 3 ranges.... just sayin'.

    My Kubota B3200 had three ranges and 90% of the time it was in mid range. Same thing now with the 39R, probably 75% in mid range as we have some slopes and stuff where we live now and I use low range for mowing.

    I called mid range the Goldie Locks range, just right.

    I think you will just have to shift ranges a bit more with a two range trans, but it is not that hard. Each brand and model will have pros and cons.
    Finguring out which one has the most pros is the fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rtgt View Post
    The 3R has 3 ranges.... just sayin'.

    My Kubota B3200 had three ranges and 90% of the time it was in mid range. Same thing now with the 39R, probably 75% in mid range as we have some slopes and stuff where we live now and I use low range for mowing.

    I called mid range the Goldie Locks range, just right.

    I think you will just have to shift ranges a bit more with a two range trans, but it is not that hard. Each brand and model will have pros and cons.
    Finguring out which one has the most pros is the fun.
    Boy I could sure do with out "C" Range on my 4044M and go with a split between Range "A" & "B" just that I have never been able to run down a road in "C" Range yet only "B" and plowing snow is A or B only!

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    Range Low @ 2400 rpm
    6.80 km/h (4.22 mph)
    Forward and Reverse
    Range Medium @ 2600 rpm
    14.40 km/h (8.93 mph)
    Forward and Reverse
    Range High @ 3000 rpm
    32.80 km/h (20.34 mph)
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    I don't have either tractor but I do have a 2-range 2-series.

    Here's one way to look at it... most folks with the 3-range transmission (like rtgt above) say they use mid-range most of the time.

    The 3025E specifications show the ground speed as 0 to 6 MPH in low, 0 to 12.9 MPH in high
    The B2601 specifications show 0 to 3.5 MPH in low, 0 to 5.5 MPH in mid, and 0 to 11.8 MPH in high.

    So the low range on the 3025E gives you almost the exact same ground speed range as mid-range on the B2601.

    Most owner's with 3-range transmissions say they most only ever use High-range for travelling.
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    I have a 2 range, and a 3 range tractor. Both work fine, the 3 range “c” hardly gets used, seem “b” gets used most.
    If you can get past it, look harder at all other features on the tractor (location of loader control, pin or quick Tach bucket, twin peddle vs rocker, you mentioned sound of motor) and see which one makes you smile more when in seat.
    That’s the one you should get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdmars View Post
    I have a 2 range, and a 3 range tractor. Both work fine, the 3 range “c” hardly gets used, seem “b” gets used most.
    If you can get past it, look harder at all other features on the tractor (location of loader control, pin or quick Tasch bucket, twin peddle vs rocker, you mentioned sound of motor) and see which one makes you smile more when in seat.
    That’s the one you should get.
    I tried the Rocker Pedal on a smaller JD Lawn Mower and hated it. I like the Dual Pedals so much more, one to go forward and one to go backwards. I do not like flexing my food to go back and forth.
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    I have been looking for about two months at both of them, I like things about both but haven’t talked to anyone other than the dealer about the two range transmissions so I figured I ask you all. Thanks for the comments. Most of the other differences don’t mean to much to me. Don’t think I would really need to take the loader arms off of the tractor unless I needed to do fix something on the tractor. Pedals don’t bother me either way. The 2601 is about 1400 bucks cheaper but the payments are about the same. I’m just trying to get last few questions answered.

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    Any of them will be a large step up from the ol farmall I have now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD4044M View Post
    I tried the Rocker Pedal on a smaller JD Lawn Mower and hated it. I like the Dual Pedals so much more, one to go forward and one to go backwards. I do not like flexing my food to go back and forth.
    You don't really need to flex your foot, you can simply press down on either end of the pedal with your whole foot. One area where the rocker pedal is more comfortable is when travelling in reverse. For me anyway I always look over my right shoulder. When I turn my body to the right that pulls my right foot away from the reverse pedal. With a rocker pedal design, when my body is twisted to the right it actually brings my right foot closer to the rear part of the rocker pedal and you can just push down.

    Granted, these maneuvers are mostly required on smaller tractors that typically have cramped operator's stations.
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