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    no power, no lights, battery fine?

    I went out to start my 3520, when I turned the key there was a pop and now nothing works. No power, not even the lights go on. I tested the battery and it was fine. I pulled the fuses and they were fine. No idea how to test a relay or tell if one is blown? Could a relay kill all incoming power? Any ideas what else I should check?
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    How did you test the battery? Your description matches to a tee the sound of “Sudden death battery syndrome”.

    When my 2720 battery died without warning it did exactly as you describe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    How did you test the battery? Your description matches to a tee the sound of “Sudden death battery syndrome”.

    When my 2720 battery died without warning it did exactly as you describe.
    I used a voltage tester. never had battery issues, been running a lot over last couple weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardware man View Post
    I used a voltage tester. never had battery issues, been running a lot over last couple weeks.
    What did the voltage read? Since you said the tractor won't do anything I assume you could not measure the voltage while cranking or with a load. That is where the faulty voltage reading will occur.

    When my battery died it never gave so much as a hiccup prior. Then one day I started it up (cranked normally) pulled it out of the garage and let it sit. 15-mins I went to start it to put it away and just a big CLUNK sound and nothing. Battery voltage showed normal at rest but when I put a load on it the voltage dropped down to less than 8 volts.
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    I agree that the battery is probably dead, you need a tester that can measure cranking amps, something like this SOLAR® BA9 - 12V Digital Electrical System and Battery Tester - TOOLSiD.com The battery on my 3320 died a similar death, worked fine all morning then shut it off for lunch and then no start, no lights etc. but the voltage was good.
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    Hopefully it's just the battery. I had something similar happen where I was using the 4200 all morning, shut it off for break and nothing happened when my break was over. I took the battery to one of the local parts stores and they said it was fine. It turned out the alternator or something in it puked, which was a lot more expensive than a battery. I did get the optional heavy duty (55amps vs stock 40amps) alternator since I was spending the bucks at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eric102 View Post
    I agree that the battery is probably dead, you need a tester that can measure cranking amps, something like this SOLAR® BA9 - 12V Digital Electrical System and Battery Tester - TOOLSiD.com The battery on my 3320 died a similar death, worked fine all morning then shut it off for lunch and then no start, no lights etc. but the voltage was good.
    The battery in our 2320 went the same way.
    I'm convinced it has something to do with taking a break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    What did the voltage read? Since you said the tractor won't do anything I assume you could not measure the voltage while cranking or with a load. That is where the faulty voltage reading will occur.

    When my battery died it never gave so much as a hiccup prior. Then one day I started it up (cranked normally) pulled it out of the garage and let it sit. 15-mins I went to start it to put it away and just a big CLUNK sound and nothing. Battery voltage showed normal at rest but when I put a load on it the voltage dropped down to less than 8 volts.
    I was 12 volts. Nothing works, it's like there is no battery attached. No response to anything. The battery is old so I will start there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardware man View Post
    I went out to start my 3520, when I turned the key there was a pop and now nothing works. No power, not even the lights go on. I tested the battery and it was fine. I pulled the fuses and they were fine. No idea how to test a relay or tell if one is blown? Could a relay kill all incoming power? Any ideas what else I should check?
    This sounds suspicious to me.

    I've had two occurrences of JD Strong Box Sudden Death and there was never a pop and the lights would still work, although dim.

    If you haven't pulled the battery yet I would check and see if there is any voltage at the fuses.

    Maybe someone has an electrical diagram of your tractor that could be shared.

    Nothing wrong with taking the battery to the store and having it tested but your description of a "pop" has me wondering. Click maybe, but "pop" and electrical has never been a good thing in my experience.
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    Had SBD syndrome happen to me on a 6330 that I use. Was fine the day before, turn the key on and the dash and everything comes up, but turn the key and nothing. Battery was replaced with another deere battery so who knows how long it will last.

    I would get a helper to turn the key to start while you read the voltage. Is it below 12.7? if id dips really low when you try to start it the battery is bad. Also make sure the terminals are clean and shiny on the wires and the battery.
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