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    BB for 3046R, is a filled Cat 1 BB enough for safe handling

    Apologies up front if this has been asked before. If it has I can’t find it. Ballast for a 2016 3046R with a Deluxe Cab. Will a Titan Cat. 1 BB filled with sand or pebbles be enough weight for safe handling. I sure hope so I just ordered it, be here Monday. Rock Pebbles weigh approx 96 Lbs. Per Cu.Ft. BB hold 5.3 Cu.ft. So fill weight approx. 508lbs. BB WEIGHS 132lbs. empty. Total weight of BB 604lbs. I have 3-1/2” spacers on rear as well as rear tires being filled with water. Water weight would be approx 241.86 Lbs. in each Tire for a total of 483.72 Lbs. of Ballast in the rear tires. (It doesn’t freeze near Phoenix AZ. so water works). All thoughts and constructive remarks are appreciated. Thanks ahead guys I need all the help I can get guys.

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    What loader do you have? I'm going to assume H165.

    The loader Operator's Manual will have the minimum ballast requirements listed. If you do not have a copy you can access manuals on the JD website.

    Here is an example of the H165 ballast requirements for a 3046R:

    REQUIRED MINIMUM BALLAST FOR 3R, 3X20 SERIES, AND 3203 TRACTORS
    Ballast1
    Fluid-filled rear tires and 500 kg (1100 lb) of 3-Point hitch ballast2and three rear wheel weights per wheel

    Here is the 320R requirements:

    3120, 3320, 3520, 3720, 3033R, 3038R, 3039R, 3045R, and 3046R Tractors1
    Minimum Rear Ballast2 Option 1 Three rear wheel weights per wheel and 350 kg (770 lb) rear hitch ballast
    Option 2 Fluid filled rear tires3 and 300 kg (661 lb) rear hitch ballast
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    3039R, H160 FEL.

    I started with filled rear tires plus a box blade (BB5072, 470#) with 400# + of added weight.

    With a full loader on hills it felt just ok, so often I would drop the BB and put on the backhoe if I was going to be heavy in the front.

    I just added the first set of wheel weights. Second set coming soon.

    I look at the recommended ballast as the minimum.

    Keeping the rear tires firmly planted is the best solution.

    I like the back end to have more squat than the front end has lift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rtgt View Post
    3039R, H160 FEL.

    I started with filled rear tires plus a box blade (BB5072, 470#) with 400# + of added weight.

    With a full loader on hills it felt just ok, so often I would drop the BB and put on the backhoe if I was going to be heavy in the front.

    I just added the first set of wheel weights. Second set coming soon.

    I look at the recommended ballast as the minimum.

    Keeping the rear tires firmly planted is the best solution.

    I like the back end to have more squat than the front end has lift.
    Here is the info from the H160 manual:

    H160 Loader Specifications on 3120, 3320, 3520, 3720, 3033R, 3038R, 3039R, 3045R, and 3046R Tractors1

    3120, 3320, 3520, 3720, 3033R, 3038R, 3039R, 3045R, and 3046R Tractors
    Minimum Rear Ballast Rear tires filled with liquid ballast2
    Six rear wheel weights
    350 kg (770 lb.) minimum (3-point hitch ballast)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    Here is the info from the H160 manual:

    H160 Loader Specifications on 3120, 3320, 3520, 3720, 3033R, 3038R, 3039R, 3045R, and 3046R Tractors1

    3120, 3320, 3520, 3720, 3033R, 3038R, 3039R, 3045R, and 3046R Tractors
    Minimum Rear Ballast Rear tires filled with liquid ballast2
    Six rear wheel weights
    350 kg (770 lb.) minimum (3-point hitch ballast)
    Which wheel weights?

    Depending on the tires/rims you have you can use either 48# or 75# rear wheel weights. 20" rims you only get 48# weights, 24" rims you can use 75# weights.

    Maybe this is offset by the fluid capacity in the tires.

    I'll go look at the printed manual I got with the tractor/loader, but I think it had different spec's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rtgt View Post
    Which wheel weights?

    Depending on the tires/rims you have you can use either 48# or 75# rear wheel weights. 20" rims you only get 48# weights, 24" rims you can use 75# weights.

    Maybe this is offset by the fluid capacity in the tires.

    I'll go look at the printed manual I got with the tractor/loader, but I think it had different spec's.
    The manual seems to be a bit vague with regards to wheel weights and tire type. They do have a chart with approved tires but it lists both of the tire sizes you mentioned above.

    Approved Rear Tires—H160 Loader

    3120, 3320, 3520, 3720, 3033R, 3038R, 3039R, 3045R, 3046R 15-19.5, 6PR (R4)
    41 x 14.00-20 4PR (R3 Turf)
    11.2-24, 4PR (R3 Turf)
    11.2-24, 4PR (R1)
    12.4-24, 6PR (R1)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    The manual seems to be a bit vague with regards to wheel weights and tire type. They do have a chart with approved tires but it lists both of the tire sizes you mentioned above.

    Approved Rear Tires—H160 Loader

    3120, 3320, 3520, 3720, 3033R, 3038R, 3039R, 3045R, 3046R 15-19.5, 6PR (R4)
    41 x 14.00-20 4PR (R3 Turf)
    11.2-24, 4PR (R3 Turf)
    11.2-24, 4PR (R1)
    12.4-24, 6PR (R1)


    Except that the tractor with a factory loader came with R4 tires that are not listed in that chart..... 43x16x20 R4, which with the 20" wheel diameter only accepts the 48# weights.
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    Reply’s appreciated guys. I have R4 tires and an H165 loader. So the consensus is I need 3 wheel weights on each rear tire as well as the ballast box with a total of 770 Lbs of weight on the 3 pt. hitch minimum. Is that correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jr. John View Post
    Reply’s appreciated guys. I have R4 tires and an H165 loader. So the consensus is I need 3 wheel weights on each rear tire as well as the ballast box with a total of 770 Lbs of weight on the 3 pt. hitch minimum. Is that correct?
    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    What loader do you have? I'm going to assume H165.

    The loader Operator's Manual will have the minimum ballast requirements listed. If you do not have a copy you can access manuals on the JD website.

    Here is an example of the H165 ballast requirements for a 3046R:

    REQUIRED MINIMUM BALLAST FOR 3R, 3X20 SERIES, AND 3203 TRACTORS
    Ballast1
    Fluid-filled rear tires and 500 kg (1100 lb) of 3-Point hitch ballast2and three rear wheel weights per wheel
    Here is what Jayman posted earlier.
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    I started with fluid filled rear tires and 800# of 3 point weight. For most average use, the tractor is very stable and capable.

    Much of the loader use is moving brush, debris & logs with a grapple. Brush is easy. Logs, especially oak get heavy fast. I cut them accordingly and move what I can safely.

    When I need to occasionally move heavy stuff I just don't max out the loader bucket.

    If I have lots of heavy stuff to move, I installed the 375A backhoe.

    48# Wheel weights for my tractor with 20" rims are $300 a set. I am getting to a point that I want / need to be better ballasted so I am in the process of adding the wheel weights. Set #1 is on. Set #2 is pending while my piggy bank fills back up.
    Taking the easy way is what makes rivers and men crooked.

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