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    Weighted tires on an X380?

    Howdy, I bought a new X380 last summer and was considering adding rv/marine antifreeze to the rear wheels. The reason being I wanted to help smooth out our lawn plus gain a bit of traction and stability. The machine has the Kanzaki K58 transaxle.

    What are the thoughts on the extra load on the trans axle? Will weighted tires cause premature wear and tear on the ole girl?



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    Quote Originally Posted by skybolt View Post
    Howdy, I bought a new X380 last summer and was considering adding rv/marine antifreeze to the rear wheels. The reason being I wanted to help smooth out our lawn plus gain a bit of traction and stability. The machine has the Kanzaki K58 transaxle.

    What are the thoughts on the extra load on the trans axle? Will weighted tires cause premature wear and tear on the ole girl?
    Adding antifreeze to the tires should add somewhere around 46 lbs. per tire. You could get 50 lbs. per tire with an iron wheel weight. I doubt the extra weight will do much to smooth the lawn unless your ground is really soft. I don't think you have anything to worry about with extra load or wear on the transaxle. Adding weight to the tires is less stress on the drive train than adding weight to the chassis.
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    Howdy,

    The answer is in your owner's manual. For what it's worth, I would have thought it would have been okay. However, it appears it is a BAD IDEA!!! So, don't do it!

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    Here's a copy and paste of the "Using Weights" section:

    Using Weights
    CAUTION: Avoid injury! The machine may become unstable when operating on slopes and/or with some attachments.

    Use weights to improve stability when operating on slopes or using attachments.

    Remove weights when not required.

    IMPORTANT: Avoid damage! Never use liquid in tires or wheel weights as ballast. Transmission damage can occur.

    When rear ballast is needed, use only the approved rear weight bracket and attaching weights.

    NOTE: See your authorized dealer for recommended weights.

    Install front weights for added stability and steering control when you use equipment such as the rear-mounted grass bagger.
    Install rear weights when using the snow blade or snowblower.
    Remove weights when not required.

    EDIT: You'll probably void your warranty as well if something were to happen with them loaded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodworkstractors View Post
    IMPORTANT: Avoid damage! Never use liquid in tires or wheel weights as ballast. Transmission damage can occur.
    The same verbiage is in the X500 AND X700 owner's manual. JD sells wheel weights for the X3/X5/X7 lawn/garden tractors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    The same verbiage is in the X500 AND X700 owner's manual. JD sells wheel weights for the X3/X5/X7 lawn/garden tractors.

    Sure, for the tractors that are out of warranty! Wear down those trannies as fast as possible so they can go buy another new one! Gotta keep those stockholders happy
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    Quote Originally Posted by skybolt View Post
    Howdy, I bought a new X380 last summer and was considering adding rv/marine antifreeze to the rear wheels. The reason being I wanted to help smooth out our lawn plus gain a bit of traction and stability. The machine has the Kanzaki K58 transaxle.

    What are the thoughts on the extra load on the trans axle? Will weighted tires cause premature wear and tear on the ole girl?



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    Use different mowing patterns each time you cut. If you can anyway. To me some lots/spots only have one mowing solution.
    This will help keep ruts to a minimum.

    Had a retention pond to cut so the bottom was frequently soft. I used my Wrangler to pull out some sticker bushes one season. Even with 4X4 and almost bald tires it still left some good ruts. Kept cutting across the ruts eventually flattened out the ground.

    I just use suitcase weights for ballast. Because they are easy to put on and take off. Compared to wheel weights anyway.
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    The problem with adding liquid to the tires is its always there,weights can be taken on and off.If it was a tractor that did loader work and was used with attachments a lot then yes.But for lawn mowers no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJR345 View Post
    The problem with adding liquid to the tires is its always there,weights can be taken on and off.If it was a tractor that did loader work and was used with attachments a lot then yes.But for lawn mowers no.
    But that's not the issue. The manual is warning not to use liquid OR wheel weights on X3, X5 or X7 tractors. Yet JD sells wheel weight kits for all three series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    But that's not the issue. The manual is warning not to use liquid OR wheel weights on X3, X5 or X7 tractors. Yet JD sells wheel weight kits for all three series.
    With my 345 and X595 they say to ballast with attachments.Bagger on, use front weight,snow blower rear weight and wheel weight and chains,same for the loader.Most of the ballast is in the attachment manuals.They don't want weight on (wheel or suitcase) when not needed.That's why there meant to be taken on and off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    But that's not the issue. The manual is warning not to use liquid OR wheel weights on X3, X5 or X7 tractors. Yet JD sells wheel weight kits for all three series.
    The more a wheel assembly weighs the harder it is to start and stop turning.
    2014 X540 with HDAP tires, 54" deck, brush guard, arm rests and cargo bag.
    JD 48" plow with angle from seat kit & heavy duty skid shoes.
    4 suitcase weights and chains.
    JD tow behind spreader.
    JD 42" lawn sweeper.
    JD 10P cart.
    JD JS61 RWD walk behind mower.
    Stihl KM110 power head with pole saw, shaft extension, power scythe, curved shaft edger, 2 straight shaft cutters (string & blade).
    Stihl MS180-CBE 16" saw.
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