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    My x475 won't move

    I have a, '03 x475 (AWS) and it has a peculiar issue of not wanting to move. I drove it off a trailer but a 1/2 hour later the forward and reverse petals are hard to push and I get a whine when I force it. It seems like the brake is still on but it has been released. Additionally, I tried to move the lever by the transmission into the 'freewheel' position so that it will roll, and it does not want to go all the way up and the tractor will not roll. The hydraulic fluid level is correct. Any ideas?

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    You sure the brake isn't just frozen up in the "park" position, even though the brake lever itself released?
    It's mighty cold up there right now.
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    Here is a diagram of the brakes:

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    I know you said the fluid level was "correct", but what about its condition? Clean/clear or dark/milky/foamy looking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennyd View Post
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    I know you said the fluid level was "correct", but what about its condition? Clean/clear or dark/milky/foamy looking?
    You even provide schematics! It is very very cold up here with a high of 4 degrees today! I could use a little tarheel heat right now. The brake is what I suspected but I couldn't find anything wrong, however with the schematics I can take another look at it.

    The hydro fluid is darker but mostly clear, not foamy and does not smell burnt.
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    Maybe try to "gently" warm up the brake system, with a hair dryer or one of those hot air-forced salamander heaters positioned far back enough to not melt or catch anything on fire?
    If it "rolled off the trailer" and set there a while, it leads me to hypothesize that the brake was applied after removal from the trailer and set there overnight, eh?
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    What kind of hydro oil is in it? If it is really cold out and this is sitting outside, the oil just might be stiff until you get it to warm up.
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    Another quick way to check if you have a floor jack - lift up the rear end and spin the wheels by hand. Any drag will be aparent quickly.
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    Additional details

    It wasn't this cold when I drove it off my trailer...probably in the mid thirties. I drove it off the trailer and parked it for 30 min. or so, then went to move it and it wouldn't budge.

    JD Hy-vis or whatever JD hydro oil product is in it.

    I let the tractor run yesterday for 30 minutes to warm up with no benefit.

    I did jack it up yesterday to put the rear wheels on dollies so I can move it around my barn and they only have an inch or two of play. Does that mean it wouldn't be the brake?

    The deck lift does work, if that is a clue.

    Thanks again y'all for the brainstorming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgem View Post
    It wasn't this cold when I drove it off my trailer...probably in the mid thirties. I drove it off the trailer and parked it for 30 min. or so, then went to move it and it wouldn't budge.

    JD Hy-vis or whatever JD hydro oil product is in it.

    I let the tractor run yesterday for 30 minutes to warm up with no benefit.

    I did jack it up yesterday to put the rear wheels on dollies so I can move it around my barn and they only have an inch or two of play. Does that mean it wouldn't be the brake?

    The deck lift does work, if that is a clue.

    Thanks again y'all for the brainstorming.
    I'm almost thinking you might have some condensation trapped in a system, and has it "frozen-up".
    Does that sound plausible?
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    My vote is for locked brakes. Could be frozen. It is that time of year. Otherwise, could be a malfunction in the brake system. Of course, you did check to make sure the parking brake is off??? You may have already mentioned that, but my memory does not go back that far.

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