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    x700 Series> Lifting Weight> With Boom Pole> (Stock HYD Pressure) at the 3PH?

    Today I decided to try out the Tarter Boom Pole on my x739.
    After installing the iMatch mated bushings, I rounded up a couple rigging lines to tie-off-and lift my LandPride BB0548 Box Scraper, as a test in capacity. I lowered the Boom Pole as low as it would go, hydraulically, then lowered it lower via the Top Link, to as close as possible. Then I rigged another line to the BB, and tied it off to hold that position when lifted.

    The Boom Pole weighs 66lbs per the specs. I didn't weigh it to verify.
    The BB weighs 277lbs.
    Total weight on the rear eye (closest to tractor) of the pole 343lbs +/-.

    I increased RPM to 3/4 and started lifting. Not enough ooOMPHFF, so full throttle it was.
    It was slow going up, but it did raise up. The x739 was level in my shop. With no front ballast.

    I decided to make a slow trip to the equipment shed and put the BB away for winter.
    There was very little weight on the steer tires. Almost popping a wheelie as I rolled slowly along. I did managed to make my way to the shed and put it away.

    I figured. And know I need front ballast. Next time I will use it.

    Now the question.
    How much weight should the x700 series be able to lift via the 3PH, with stock hydraulic pressure output?
    How much weight have you lifted with your (unmodified) x700 Series Garden Tractor with the same configuration?
    Anything other than mentioned, need not respond. Why? Because it's not relevant of the equation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boonie View Post
    Now the question.
    How much weight should the x700 series be able to lift via the 3PH, with stock hydraulic pressure output?
    How much weight have you lifted with your (unmodified) x700 Series Garden Tractor with the same configuration?
    Anything other than mentioned, need not respond. Why? Because it's not relevant of the equation.
    Oddly, JD does not list the specs for the 3PH on the X700-series although I recall reading it is somewhere around 450 lb. But that rating will be reduced significantly when the load is on the end of a boom pole.
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    Boonie---i want to see how u got the boom pole mounted to ur quick hitch?

    that is how i'm reading it-or am i wrong about thatwhy did u need the bigger bushings on the pole boom if not using the quick hitch confused i am

    give us a pic of new implement -ok
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    First of all you didn't add the weight of the IMatch to your lift weight. And the weight you're lifting is way behind the end of the 3 point hitch so it has a considerable amount of extra leverage. I have a Frontier 48 inch box blade that weighs 360 lbs. I can lift it with an almost full load of dirt at half throttle. Don't have any lifting specs but my guess is somewhere around 550 lbs. at the hitch. Maybe 600 at full throttle and yes I've had my front wheels off the ground with a full load in the box blade without the front weights installed.
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    From JDeere spec on unmodified tractor:

    Lower arm lift specificatons (Category 1 hitch):
    Maximum low point above ground = 8.5 in. (216 mm)
    Minimum high point above ground = 21.5 in. (546 mm)
    Minimum lift range = 13 in. (330 mm)
    Lift capacity 12 in. (305 mm) behind hitch balls = 450 lb (204 kg)

    I've calculated the capacity at a couple different points:

    * 700 lbs at drawbar (lift eyes)
    * 330 lbs at 24" behind drawbar (this is same point that 1025 is rated at so just for comparison)
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 3 point.JPG  
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    Oddly, JD does not list the specs for the 3PH on the X700-series although I recall reading it is somewhere around 450 lb. But that rating will be reduced significantly when the load is on the end of a boom pole.
    I thought I read where someone mentioned 450lbs, but couldn't find any specs. And, being that the weight is a considerable distance rearward from the end of the arms, that has to be factored in.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigJim55 View Post
    Boonie---i want to see how u got the boom pole mounted to ur quick hitch?

    that is how i'm reading it-or am i wrong about thatwhy did u need the bigger bushings on the pole boom if not using the quick hitch confused i am

    give us a pic of new implement -ok
    As RonPol says below, I forgot the weight of the iMatch. I think I'll remove the QH bushings and use the standard collar type. Then Clevis pins so I can use it both ways iMatch/No iMatch. Then depending on what's being lifted, I'll have that extra leverage. Sorry, no pics at the moment. I did my chores and got so involved, I forgot!

    Quote Originally Posted by RonPol View Post
    First of all you didn't add the weight of the IMatch to your lift weight. And the weight you're lifting is way behind the end of the 3 point hitch so it has a considerable amount of extra leverage. I have a Frontier 48 inch box blade that weighs 360 lbs. I can lift it with an almost full load of dirt at half throttle. Don't have any lifting specs but my guess is somewhere around 550 lbs. at the hitch. Maybe 600 at full throttle and yes I've had my front wheels off the ground with a full load in the box blade without the front weights installed.
    Ron
    You're right, I did forget the weight of the iMatch. Not sure the weight, maybe 90lbs, but that would make a lot of difference.
    The added regarding the BB full of material, that's not really relevant.
    Next time I use the Boom Pole, I'll take the iMatch off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boonie View Post
    You're right, I did forget the weight of the iMatch. Not sure the weight, maybe 90lbs, but that would make a lot of difference.
    The added regarding the BB full of material, that's not really relevant.
    Next time I use the Boom Pole, I'll take the iMatch off.
    According to JD Parts the iMatch (LVB25976) weighs 70 lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    According to JD Parts the iMatch (LVB25976) weighs 70 lbs.
    I'm not sure the difference. My iMatch is the old style with bent handles.
    Thanks for the info!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boonie View Post
    I'm not sure the difference. My iMatch is the old style with bent handles.
    Thanks for the info!!
    Subtract 3 lbs. for the welded top-hook and no bolts/nuts. :-)
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