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    X738/58 or X739?

    I had an X758 and foolishly traded it two years ago. It's the one trade/decision that I regret. So I want it (or another x700) back!

    I can't decide between an x758, an x738, and an x739.

    758 pros: diesel, for all the various reasons, but this is also a con, because...
    738 pros: gasoline...will run in any temperature, guaranteed. I've had problems with diesel gelling for the last two years in a row (lots of threads about this, no need to discuss here).
    739 pros: above, plus 4WS.

    Is there any reason not to get a x739? Are they worse on side slopes than 2WS machines?

    Any thoughts?
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    With the problems you have had with diesel, I would go with a gaser.

    I kept a Craftsman lawn tractor with the blower as my back-up just reading others having problems with diesel. I haven't had any problems, but nice to know that Craftsman will start. It just eats shear pins.
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    I had all diesels until 2016 when I got a gas gator. The first winter I was very impressed with how well the Gator started even in the coldest temps.
    In 2017 I decided to get a garden tractor. Because I had lots of things to mow around I wanted an all wheel steer tractor. Also It was going to be my main snow plow tractor.
    I got a x739. I have never regretted the purchase. Most of my property is slopes. I have not had any problems with the X739 on mu sloping property.
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    I've never once driven my x738 and thought to myself man I wish this thing turned tighter.

    For me the AWS just doesn't provide enough of a benefit to justify it's cost, loss of ground clearance, and added complication of parts.

    As for the diesel or gas thing, it seems like you have you mind set on the gas version. I don't think you can go wrong with either one.

    As for cold weather starting just for kicks one morning I went out to my unheated shed where my tractor is and started it up. It was -5 that morning and all I did was sit down and turn the key. It turned over easy and fired right up. Not sure I could ask for more out of it ... well except for maybe an electric heated seat.
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    I really like the AWS on the 739. My yard is almost all slopes and there are a lot of bushes, trees, and boulders to mow around. The AWS has cut mowing time down because of the tight turns. It will mow around a trashcan in one pass. Is it worth the extra $$$? I guess it depends on the individual, but for me, I'd hate to mow my place without it. This is the last (hopefully) mower I'll have to buy in my life. I think I got the right one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CJadamec View Post
    As for cold weather starting just for kicks one morning I went out to my unheated shed where my tractor is and started it up. It was -5 that morning and all I did was sit down and turn the key. It turned over easy and fired right up. Not sure I could ask for more out of it ... well except for maybe an electric heated seat.
    I never had a problem starting in cold weather. The problem was keeping it running. The issues I had were, in the forum, narrowed down to two things: biodiesel or otherwise inferior fuel, and, much more importantly, the location of the first filter (under the floorboard where it gets no ambient heat from the engine). I solved this problem by adding a heater to both preheat and heat that filter while the tractor was running. My dealer also says that the initial filters on tractors with DPFs are finer than the ones on tractors without DPFs, so I'm sure that contributed also. All of the fuel issues I've ever had (first on the 1025 and now on the 2032) revolved around that under-the-floorboard-filter. Anyway, this has all been hashed out, so no need to discuss it further here.
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    I understand the issues with gelling fuel, just be happy you don't have algae in your diesel that is a nightmare to deal with. I spent a number of years on ships as an engineer working on a huge variety of engines both big and small. Contaminated and gelling fuel is just something that comes with diesel fuel.

    You could just as easily have contamination or water issues in a gasoline engine. The fuel filter on the gasoline engines also sits out in the cold so it is just a prone to freezing if you have water in the tank. With an EFI engine most of the ethanol issues go away because you no longer have a carburetor but everybody is still overly paranoid about ethanol.

    I like stating small gasoline engine in the winter because you don't have any of those pesky glow plugs to worry about. Just turn the key and go.

    I'm very happy with the Kawasaki engines in these tractors. I am also very aware of all the things that the small diesels bring to the table. Much like the AWS, I don't think the diesel is worth the extra cost in the x700 series. These gas engines are powerful, have plenty of torque, quiet, low in vibration, easy to start, and surprisingly good on fuel.
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    Mike, I have a x730 gas, depending on how much grass you cut, etc I would stick with the x758 diesel. My x730 likes its gas as I cut about 4 acres each week, gets pretty expensive. You can treat the fuel, imo, Dave.
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    Once you have AWS you will never go back to the dark side :-) and combined with AWD these machines are amazing! This was the first year I've been able to push any real snow accumulations and was surprised at how good of traction it has without weights or chains.
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