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    Mower blade orientation and deck removal on x5--

    Quick question - I just swapped out the "mulch blades" on my 54" deck for the Gator G5's. The JD manual doesn't really say that the orientation of the mower blades matter, and maybe that's simply because it doesn't. Perhaps I'm overthinking it but I thought that at least the two outside blades should be oriented in the same direction, that is both blades should be facing 3 to 9 o'clock. I thought this might affect the overall balance of the deck as all 3 blades spin. Maybe it doesn't matter, in the end, I oriented all blades from 3 to 9 o'clock (roughly speaking). Is this what others have done?

    Also, is it always kind of a pain to slide the deck out from underneath the x500s series? I think the x584 makes it a little more complicated because of how both wheels turn. Eventually something is caught on one tire and it's kind of a pain to remove. I wish JD had just made the x5-- frame a few inches longer. Anyone have any tips for easily sliding the deck out? Maybe I should just get a lift to make the wheels a non-issue or is there a safe jack point on the front of the mower for a hydraulic jack?

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    The orientation of the blades to one another does not matter. They are all turned by the same belt and any slippage (maybe heavy load on one blade) would wreck any initial orientation. The blades are set on the deck in a triangle so there can be mowing overlap without the risk of the blades contacting each other.

    As far as rolling the deck out from under a X5xx, it is a pain. On my X580, I have to crank the steering all the way to get clearance.
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    If there is not any overlap, (I do not think there is) where the blades could hit each other, put them any where. I put mine 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock, 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock, then 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock, but no real reason to do so.

    I use a floor jack at the front receiver hitch. I raise the front of the tractor until the mower gearbox clears the lift arm and front of deck clears the tractor's front tires.

    This is for an x485 AWS 62C deck.
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    The blade orientation will change while running. On timed decks they use a belt with cogs to maintain relative orientation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rw580 View Post
    The orientation of the blades to one another does not matter. They are all turned by the same belt and any slippage (maybe heavy load on one blade) would wreck any initial orientation. The blades are set on the deck in a triangle so there can be mowing overlap without the risk of the blades contacting each other.

    As far as rolling the deck out from under a X5xx, it is a pain. On my X580, I have to crank the steering all the way to get clearance.

    RW580 is correct on all counts. I use a 48" deck on my X580, and yes it WAS a pain to move the deck UNTIL I bought a good lift. Much easier and quicker, especially for old guys like me. Another nice thing about lifts and decks is that you can lift the front end of the tractor and easily clean the deck without removing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOBL View Post
    RW580 is correct on all counts. I use a 48" deck on my X580, and yes it WAS a pain to move the deck UNTIL I bought a good lift. Much easier and quicker, especially for old guys like me. Another nice thing about lifts and decks is that you can lift the front end of the tractor and easily clean the deck without removing it.
    Good point. The 62C deck must weigh double the deck that was under my JD 285, plus I am NOW an old guy too.
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    What mower deck is that? And what are those baffles? Is that a mulching only deck? Im soooo confused!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cumminsmannow View Post
    What mower deck is that? And what are those baffles? Is that a mulching only deck? Im soooo confused!
    I have the 54" accel deep deck. Yes the mulch kit is installed as you can see with the mulch on demand. Those that are lifting on the front hitch are you just using a standard floor jack? I wasn't sure if that was just as safe as using something like mojack? What do people recommend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ean View Post
    I have the 54" accel deep deck. Yes the mulch kit is installed as you can see with the mulch on demand. Those that are lifting on the front hitch are you just using a standard floor jack? I wasn't sure if that was just as safe as using something like mojack? What do people recommend?
    I use a floor jack only because it's faster. I also have a Fisher lift. I have used the Fisher lift to jack high enough to remove just the blades to sharpen, but I will not crawl under to scrape the deck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ean View Post
    I have the 54" accel deep deck. Yes the mulch kit is installed as you can see with the mulch on demand. Those that are lifting on the front hitch are you just using a standard floor jack? I wasn't sure if that was just as safe as using something like mojack? What do people recommend?
    I use a 500lb MOJACK and feel very safe when under the tractor. I can use my battery powered 1/2" drill to raise and lower the jack, plus once the front wheels are strapped in there is no chance the tractor will slip off of the jack. But, as with all things tractor, best practices are advised.

    This is the lift that I own and use.

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