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    2016 Models - new electronic instrument display

    The following text was from a John Deere Press release dated today: " John Deere has updated the popular Select Series™ and Signature Series™ tractor lines with new mower decks, improved instrument displays... All models have been updated with a new electronic instrument display. The automotive-style display is backlit for night visibility, and bright caution and stop lights will indicate an engaged PTO, disengaged park brake or incorrect start sequence. Once on the move, a tachometer helps homeowners mow at the optimum throttle setting for the best and quickest quality cut. When servicing is required, on-board diagnostics provide trained technicians with instant insights, saving time and money on repairs and maintenance."

    Has anyone seen this new display with the Tachometer yet?

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    Might have to eat my words

    Off the top of my head, I don't want all the electronics on my tractor. I don't want one more thing that requires a computer to find a loose wire or something that used to be simple to fix. The other issue is who actually owns the software running those things. That's in the courts now, I believe. I know the Tier 4 engines are computer controlled and I hate that but I'll have to be dragged down that road kicking and screaming.

    Of course, if some dealer wants to give me a new fancy tractor with all electronics I'll take the chance of having to eat my words. Otherwise, when it's my cash I'll be looking for simple, solid and reliable. I can change a switch or light bulb but if a dead display means a $1,000 computer then it's no improvement for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJM View Post
    Has anyone seen this new display with the Tachometer yet?
    Here you go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treefarmer View Post
    Off the top of my head, I don't want all the electronics on my tractor. I don't want one more thing that requires a computer to find a loose wire or something that used to be simple to fix. The other issue is who actually owns the software running those things. That's in the courts now, I believe. I know the Tier 4 engines are computer controlled and I hate that but I'll have to be dragged down that road kicking and screaming.

    Of course, if some dealer wants to give me a new fancy tractor with all electronics I'll take the chance of having to eat my words. Otherwise, when it's my cash I'll be looking for simple, solid and reliable. I can change a switch or light bulb but if a dead display means a $1,000 computer then it's no improvement for me.

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    I'm with you. As I reach the end of my warranty I think about that 1025r display and what it will take to bypass it the day it goes out. Don't want / need more electronics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
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    Looks a little like the one on the Honda Pioneer just no tach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
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    What was this off? My bet is that this new fangled display, may fix the starting issues if on the 1 Series. It may also make elimination of the RIO much more difficult, if not impossible. I sure hope I am right on the former and very wrong on the later.
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    X3,5,7's have the new displays. All of the safety interlocks will go thru the display. It's different, it's new, but I don't think it's a bad thing.
    The 1 series will keep the same display. No changes that I am aware of.
    The onboard diagnostics are helpful. Crank time will be cut off to allow for starter cooling. And there is a time out feature if you happen to leave the key on.
    It's a very very basic system. No software updates or reflashes on the X series stuff.
    Not sure what a new display would cost. But with the long warranty periods I wouldn't be concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treefarmer View Post
    Off the top of my head, I don't want all the electronics on my tractor. I don't want one more thing that requires a computer to find a loose wire or something that used to be simple to fix. The other issue is who actually owns the software running those things. That's in the courts now, I believe. I know the Tier 4 engines are computer controlled and I hate that but I'll have to be dragged down that road kicking and screaming.

    Of course, if some dealer wants to give me a new fancy tractor with all electronics I'll take the chance of having to eat my words. Otherwise, when it's my cash I'll be looking for simple, solid and reliable. I can change a switch or light bulb but if a dead display means a $1,000 computer then it's no improvement for me.

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    The other day I was in the grocery store and two guys who are probably in their early thirties were comparing their new cars and the remote starting capabilities. Finally, one guy says the other one, "Well, I can use my phone to start my car."

    I just couldn't bite my tongue any longer so I just had to ask, "Why does anyone need to be able to start their cars with their smartphone?" The response was quite interesting. The various answers I received had NOTHING to do with WHY someone "NEEDS" to use their smartphone to start their car, but instead, it was based upon some desire to make the smart phone's do EVERYTHING, whether it is practical or not.

    The one guy then says "I am working on a program right now at Whirlpool where our appliances are all going to start to communicate with your smartphone." As if I didn't think starting your car with your smartphone was foolish enough, now we are going to have our refrigerator and stove / ovens communicate with our phones. So I asked the guy to provide me an example of how this technology would be used and useful.

    His response was "Well, let's say you are going to cook something in the oven when you get home. This way, you can remotely start your oven and it will be ready at the cooking temperature when you arrive home so you won't have to wait for it to warm up." Seriously? So I asked him, "would this be something you would do while on your way home"? He enthusiastically replied "Well, absolutely." But what if you are driving on your way home, shouldn't you pay attention to the road and what you are doing?" The guy looked at me like I was a total moron for suggesting that we need fewer distractions while driving, not MORE.

    I couldn't help but ask, if the issue is the "waiting time" for the oven to warm up, why not make the time required for the oven to reach the temperature shorter? (as if one doesn't have other things to do like prepping the food, etc, while the oven is preheating). Clearly, such thoughts were very inconsistent with their end goal of having the phone control every aspect of our lives.........Sometimes I think in the pursuit of technology, common sense is being trampled..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by SulleyBear View Post
    The other day I was in the grocery store and two guys who are probably in their early thirties were comparing their new cars and the remote starting capabilities. Finally, one guy says the other one, "Well, I can use my phone to start my car."

    I just couldn't bite my tongue any longer so I just had to ask, "Why does anyone need to be able to start their cars with their smartphone?" The response was quite interesting. The various answers I received had NOTHING to do with WHY someone "NEEDS" to use their smartphone to start their car, but instead, it was based upon some desire to make the smart phone's do EVERYTHING, whether it is practical or not.

    The one guy then says "I am working on a program right now at Whirlpool where our appliances are all going to start to communicate with your smartphone." As if I didn't think starting your car with your smartphone was foolish enough, now we are going to have our refrigerator and stove / ovens communicate with our phones. So I asked the guy to provide me an example of how this technology would be used and useful.

    His response was "Well, let's say you are going to cook something in the oven when you get home. This way, you can remotely start your oven and it will be ready at the cooking temperature when you arrive home so you won't have to wait for it to warm up." Seriously? So I asked him, "would this be something you would do while on your way home"? He enthusiastically replied "Well, absolutely." But what if you are driving on your way home, shouldn't you pay attention to the road and what you are doing?" The guy looked at me like I was a total moron for suggesting that we need fewer distractions while driving, not MORE.

    I couldn't help but ask, if the issue is the "waiting time" for the oven to warm up, why not make the time required for the oven to reach the temperature shorter? (as if one doesn't have other things to do like prepping the food, etc, while the oven is preheating). Clearly, such thoughts were very inconsistent with their end goal of having the phone control every aspect of our lives.........Sometimes I think in the pursuit of technology, common sense is being trampled..........
    Through OnStar I can remotely start our truck. Is it needed? No. Is it nice in the winter to be able to remotely start the truck while sitting in a restaurant. Once the bill shows up, I start it and it is warm by the time the bill is paid and we get to the vehicle. Not really any different than remote start from the key fob but with much better range and I get a confirmation as to if it was successful or not.

    The nice thing about this though is that it is a feature you can use or not. I get that not everyone likes to add technology but in this case you don't have to use it if you don't want to. In other cases it is more in the way and can cause issues.

    I found it interesting when I was shopping for a Ztrak mower. While they do make one with an efi, the vast majority of the models, at least with John Deere, are all have air cooled engines with a carburetor. Even though I sprung for a R model with more features, it really is a pretty simple machine. While the engine with a carburetor will likely get worse numbers in fuel consumption, it is more reliable as long as it stays clean. In looking it over they are just a vertical shaft motor with a belt running to the drive units. Then a belt to run the deck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Deere 1025R TLB View Post
    What was this off? My bet is that this new fangled display, may fix the starting issues if on the 1 Series. It may also make elimination of the RIO much more difficult, if not impossible. I sure hope I am right on the former and very wrong on the later.
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