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    Looking to buy a 4300 and wanted your opinions

    Looking to buy this tractor for our home build. I need to trench for electrical, foundation work, septic system and grading (will get a box gannon with ripper teeth) It's a 4300 with a 420 loader and a backhoe. Not sure if the backhoe is a 47, 49 or 49 as they painted it. 2944 hours on the meter. Not afraid of working on it as I have been a automotive mechanic for 30 years and a welder fabricator for 19 years so the pictures of the backhoe bucket does not scare me, only for appraisal purposes.

    Was not able to start it or test any of the components but I have seen a video of it functioning

    All the hydraulic rams are free from pits but the bucket tilt rams have some wear (no visible leaks). Hydraulic lines are clean and I have a Parker store account to get them made if need be as I am assuming they pressure washed any evidence of this.

    The engine is not showing any signs of leaks but the rear underneath has leaks. I ran our of time to check the fluids but will do so when I return back.

    The lever control for the bucket has a lot of free play before it engages the flow valves and moving the lever to the left hits the seat before fully engaging the valve.

    The left brake pedal goes to the floor but the right pedal has resistance

    All of the controls for the backhoe feel firm but they parked it with the bucket in the raised position

    Missing a few knobs (last 2 pictures)

    As this is my first tractor purchase (I grew up on a farm but never worked on them), wanted to find out if there is anything I should look for and what your thoughts are on pricing. What is a steal, a deal and the max price point.

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    Welcome to GTT.

    One concern I see is the bucket on the FEL, it's not original, and the JDQA ( John Deere Quick Attach) shoes are missing from the loader side ,so now it's a pinned-on bucket. Between that and the condition of the backhoe bucket I'd say this machine was used REALLY hard. I also suspect the joystick linkage is worn our or damaged-and/or possibly the valve spools from your description.

    Since it has the hoe attached, is the 3PH arms and hardware included? They are very expensive to buy later if not, and you mentioned a box blade so you'll need it.

    This is what's supposed to be on the end of the loader boom and cylinders:
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    I've got a 4400 and I've been the only operator....I can tell the tractor has been abused from the heavy welding....I believe I'd put my money in later model....

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    I don't know what your needs are after the house build but I would consider renting a mini excavator. Faster digging and back filling. I would personally steer clear of this unit. Looks like she has had some hard hours.

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    What's your schedule for the house? Are there deadlines you have to meet for grading, trenching, foundation work? And the big question, have you done that kind of work before?

    A skilled operator is worth every penny. Digging holes isn't so tough, but grading and foundation work take a lot of practice to get good at, and if you aren't familiar with a box blade, it could take you some hours to hone your technique. And with this machine, it might take you 2, 3, or 4 times more hours than someone else because it might not be up and running every time you want or need to be out accomplishing work for your build.

    The welds on the backhoe bucket and the lack of quick attach mounts on the loader tell you the previous owner was interested in fixing that machine quick and cheap. The lack of knobs on the levers backs that up, most who take care of their machines would have replaced those. This is all visible from photos, that machine most likely looks worse in person, and the big thing is, you don't know what they fixed quickly and cheaply that you can't see.

    I would walk away from this one, and I find it hard to put a price on as there doesn't seem to be a section on the tractor that hasn't been modified, "fixed", is currently leaking, or has pieces missing, but I don't think I would entertain it for over 7k, and even then I would probably pass. As 7k is a steal for a TLB, I'm guessing they would turn down that offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennyd View Post
    Welcome to GTT.

    One concern I see is the bucket on the FEL, it's not original, and the JDQA ( John Deere Quick Attach) shoes are missing from the loader side ,so now it's a pinned-on bucket. Between that and the condition of the backhoe bucket I'd say this machine was used REALLY hard. I also suspect the joystick linkage is worn our or damaged-and/or possibly the valve spools from your description.

    Since it has the hoe attached, is the 3PH arms and hardware included? They are very expensive to buy later if not, and you mentioned a box blade so you'll need it.

    This is what's supposed to be on the end of the loader boom and cylinders:
    Thanks for the information! I can see that the end of the cylinders is not painted as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glc View Post
    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by machineryman View Post
    I've got a 4400 and I've been the only operator....I can tell the tractor has been abused from the heavy welding....I believe I'd put my money in later model....
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcopterdoc View Post
    I don't know what your needs are after the house build but I would consider renting a mini excavator. Faster digging and back filling. I would personally steer clear of this unit. Looks like she has had some hard hours.

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    It's raw land. 1.4 acres in the desert so I will have plenty to do after the house with landscaping and upkeep. I was leaning that way on the excavator, I just hate renting things if I can buy, use and resell or keep.

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