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    Upgrade to 2038R

    When pulling some of my hills with the Bush hog my 2032R is bogging down. When it hits a thick spot or the hill steepens a bit, the rpm will pull back to around 2000 rpm and I'll have to back off on forward motion to let the engine and pto rpms come back up.
    Thinking about upgrading to the 2038R for the increased horsepower.
    Anyone here run into this and upgraded? Will the extra 6hp make THAT much difference?
    Am I doing any harm to the engine bogging it down?
    The 3039R is only 1hp over the 2038R and if more than 5 inches or so taller with the rops down than the 2032 frame, it won't fit under the shop door where I store it.

    Or don't worry about it and just spend a few extra minutes getting the job done?

    Thanks for any insights or personal experiences.
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    If it were ME I would simply slow down slightly in the thick stuff. I can't see six "brochure" HP revolutionizing your bush hogging experience. If you do decide to upgrade, perhaps a 3049R would be more appropriate. That would give you a nearly 50% increase in PTO horsepower.

    But if it were ME and the tractor was doing everything else you asked of it.... I'd just slow down a bit through the thick stuff.
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    How big is the bush hog? I wouldnt worry bout it luggn down to 2000 once in awhile
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    Quote Originally Posted by togalloway View Post
    Will the extra 6hp make THAT much difference?.
    No.

    Both will bog down. The 38 will bog down less, and if you have two of them next to each other doing the same thing, you will notice a small difference. If you don't, you won't. You will lose all that money in the trade, then go up that same hill and you'll be like, "Wait! It's bogging down too! Nooooo!"

    You should always back off the forward pedal in a hydro when you start bogging down when brush hogging (or doing anything else), it's normal. Your tractor will find a new speed at which it is comfortable.

    So like...with the 32 you'll go from say 5 mph to 4 mph. With the 38 you will go from 5 mph to 4.3 mph.

    If you want to see a difference you can feel you'd need something like a 3046R running THAT SAME brushog. If you get a bigger brush hog, you may not notice any difference then, though you'll be cutting a wider path.

    HP matters a lot to commercial operators. You won't notice the difference between 4 mph and 4.3 mph, but if you are brush hogging all day for money, you will notice spending 9 hours instead of 10 at the customer's site for the same pay.
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    The 3046R also has load match, so you can leave her floored and the rpms only drop a couple hundred.

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    OK, seems like everyone has the same opinion and that's what I thought.
    It's a 5' hog for the guy that asked.
    And yep for now it's fine with all the other tasks and chores.
    Just wanted to make sure it wasn't hurting the engine.

    So I'll just hang in there and save the $$.
    Thanks all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by togalloway View Post
    OK, seems like everyone has the same opinion and that's what I thought.
    It's a 5' hog for the guy that asked.
    And yep for now it's fine with all the other tasks and chores.
    Just wanted to make sure it wasn't hurting the engine.

    So I'll just hang in there and save the $$.
    Thanks all.
    FYI, I run a 6' hog on my 2032 with no problems. It chews stuff up impressively well. I couldn't really ask for better performance. And my land is nothing but nasty hills and nasty weeds/shrubs.

    You aren't hurting the engine at all (particularly if you let off a little and let it catch up), what you feel is the governor doing its best to maintain engine speed under load and not being able to keep up. Consequently, the RPM drops as the load increases. This is something you will experience with every tractor you will ever own.
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    The 2038r might bog down but if it does it will be substantially less than the 2032r. 15% is a lot of extra horsepower and torque. This is why I always buy the most power per frame size. I canít stand running out of power, time is money. Those who say it wonít make much of a difference must not have that much experience with tractors of various horsepower pulling implements. If you pay attention you can tell a huge difference in how much power you have by just putting a new air filter in...

    I do, however, agree with everyone that itís too late to do anything. Youíll lose out on a lot of money. When itís time to upgrade just make sure that you go for more power.


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    Per JD specs.

    2032R has 24.2 PTO horse power at 2500RPM.

    2038R has 30.4 PTO horse power at 2500RPM.

    I have no idea what the real world performance is, but in my mind with an over 25% increase in power would result in a much larger performance span than what is being talked about here.

    I agree as far as a home owner that has to deal with slowing down one a week or how ever often vs someone that deals with it daily. But the differences should most certainly be noticeable however often it has to be dealt with.


    Just my 2 cents.
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    Neil Messick says, "a change of 10-20% in the horsepower of your tractor, in most applications, is probably not going to be noticeable" in this video: So you want to TRADE UP for a new Tractor? - TMT - YouTube

    He then goes on to say, "I'd encourage guys to look for at least a 50% jump, if not a doubling, in a lot of tractor specifications."

    Also, this absolutely hilarious Indian video shows the difference, in application, between a Turbo Arjun and an non-turbo Arjun (an Indian market Mahindra model). The difference is...100 RPM. The music alone makes this video worth watching.

    TURBO ARJUN VS WITHOUT TURBO ARJUN WITH 20 DISC HARROW FULL OPEN - YouTube
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