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    2025R vs 3025E vs 2032R

    I stopped by my local dealer to look at a 1025R vs a 2025r but they only had a 2032R on the lot. When I told the salesman I was interested in the 2025R for the extra ground clearance with most of my work happening in the woods he immediately recommended the 3023E with 300E loader. I tried out both the 1025R and the 3025E. I was surprised at how much I liked the 3025E. The turning radius is actually rather good and the loader was butter smooth. Another thing I noted on the 3025E that the 1025R and 2025r don't have is an actual parking brake handle vs the little latch like a riding mower on the 1025R/2025R. So I like some of the features of the 3 but it is a lot larger than what I need. I like the dimensions of the 2025R but I wish it had a legitimate parking brake like the 3025E. With those thing in mind I am considering the 2032R to give the size I am looking for with some of the larger tractor features. The downside to considering the 2032R is it is $5k more than the 3025E... I can go with a 2025R TLB now or go with the 2032R with FEL only and add a backhoe later. What are y'all thoughts on those models?
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    I have the 2032R, and one thing that drove me to it over the 2025 is the 3 point lift height, the 2025 is exceptionally low competitively. However, if you are going to be mainly using it in the woods, and you won't be using a lot of 3 point implements, and the backhoe is a priority, go with the 2025R. It is narrower, and if you wanted to add the backhoe to the 2032R, it will cost you 9K.

    Between the E and the R series, I went with the R for ergonomics, having the loader joystick being fender mounted is huge if you are doing a lot of loader work.
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    I just went through this same thing. Although for me it was 2032 with no backhoe ever, tier 4 nonsense, and doesn’t fit on my trailer VS 2025 with backhoe, no DPF, and fits on my trailer. I considered a 3025 with 3pt mower but decided it wasn’t going to make sense, plus I didn’t like where the loader joystick was. I never use the parking brake, just put the loader on the ground and leave it in neutral. If you’re interested in a backhoe, it’s best to get it now and finance at 0%.
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    I looked at the 2025r and really didn’t like the 3pt setup, it just didn’t seem like more then a big lawn tractor. I didn’t need a belly mower so the 3025e was more appealing to me. I priced out the backhoe for the 3025e and it was $8k, I passed on it for now and may consider it in the future but I have free access to a mini excavator when it’s available for now. I felt the 3025e had a ton of value as long as it wasn’t needed to be a dedicated mower plus I have a ton of trees and some steep ground I mow so it wouldn’t be ideal to mow with any tractor. I also like the extra lifting ability of the loader on the 3025e over the 2025r.

    While the 0% financing was tempting to keep adding implements I figured it wasn’t worth spending the extra on the backhoe.

    Dealer didn’t have a 2032r so I didn’t get to compare the 3025e to one but I was sold on a 3025e months ago so maybe I didn’t give the 2025r a good chance to win me over, dealer is delivering it next week. I also didn’t want to deal with tier 4.
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    I went through all this also, and settled on the 2025r. The largest thing to remember about the E series, is...no mid PTO. Since I plan to use a front mount snowblower, the E was out for me. It was between the 2025r and 2032r...knowing that I'll be in the woods a lot, I opted to save a huge amount of monet and go with the 2025r...and I'm glad I did. The 2025r seems smaller until you get in the woods...then it feels like a huge machine, I'm not sure I could get a 2032r in my woods without having to widen all the trails and really pick my way carefully. I dont understand the comment about the lift height for the 3pt hitch on the 2025r...mine lifts the land plane as well as my weight box way up off the ground...I cant imagine ever wanting it to go any higher. I dont thnk you'll ever regret the extra weight of HP of the 2032r, but my 2025r so far does everything I need. It's a little beast. It pulls a 60" landplane full of gravel up a gade on my driveway without any struggle...plenty of tractor for my individual needs.
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    I had a concern with the lift height for using a post hole auger. My property has some substantial slopes to it, so in some areas to use an auger, the tractor has to be pointed downhill, effectively lowering the clearance between the draft arms and the ground. I measured 3 tractors at my dealer, with these results:

    1023e: 26 inches
    2025R: 23 inches
    2032R: 34 inches

    It's not a concern for everybody, but it is something to think about. However, if OP will mainly have the backhoe on, it's a non-issue from any standpoint.

    Whatever you do, don't buy a machine based on a task you MIGHT do, or very rarely. Buy the one that fits your day to day needs, you can rent something for those one-offs much cheaper than paying for an ability you never use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Satch View Post
    I had a concern with the lift height for using a post hole auger. My property has some substantial slopes to it, so in some areas to use an auger, the tractor has to be pointed downhill, effectively lowering the clearance between the draft arms and the ground. I measured 3 tractors at my dealer, with these results:

    1023e: 26 inches
    2025R: 23 inches
    2032R: 34 inches

    It's not a concern for everybody, but it is something to think about. However, if OP will mainly have the backhoe on, it's a non-issue from any standpoint.

    Whatever you do, don't buy a machine based on a task you MIGHT do, or very rarely. Buy the one that fits your day to day needs, you can rent something for those one-offs much cheaper than paying for an ability you never use.
    While I agree that the 2025Rs 3 point lift height isnt high enough, it should equal or surpass slightly the 1 series. If it doesnt, have it looked at by the dealer.
    Several have needed adjustment.
    Its not too big a deal to me with my 2025, but I dont use a ton of 3-point implements.
    The interesting thing thats been pointed out on the forum is in regard to ground clearance. It seems the 2025R is king here. The drawbar on it sits higher than the drawbar on the rest of the 2 series, which is also interesting, or odd.
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    For me, I couldn't justify the extra money for a 2032R. If I could, I'd go right for the 2038R anyways. The E series was out for me as well as I wanted the mid PTO and I liked the added benefits of the R series.

    I really wanted a backhoe and in order to do that I had to stop at the 2025R. Otherwise, I said to myself "I'd have to get it later", which in reality it would probably never happen. Or if it did, I'd be cheaper to trade the machine in.

    If you ever did get a backhoe for the 2032R you're not going to find a huge performance difference between that and a 260B. As a matter of fact there are some specs that the 270B falls short. So keep that in mind as well. You're not going to go into the woods and rip out a 24" oak stump with a couple scoops with either machine. It'll take some time.

    The 2025R actually has more "balls" than I originally gave it credit for. It handles my 5' bush hog fine, I've literally buried the machine in underbrush going as fast as I dare go and never had a issue. It's small and nimble enough to handle tight trails in the woods or around the house, and I was able to save enough money to get the implements I really wanted so it was a win for me.

    Whatever you choose, It'll be a great machine!
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    Thanks for all the replies. They have definitely been helpful and given me a few things to think about. It sounds like I need to focus on deciding whether I really want the backhoe or not. If so I'm going 2025R. If not it will be the 3025E.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluestang50 View Post
    Thanks for all the replies. They have definitely been helpful and given me a few things to think about. It sounds like I need to focus on deciding whether I really want the backhoe or not. If so I'm going 2025R. If not it will be the 3025E.
    The 3025E and the 2025R are two very different tractors. The 2025R is a "one machine does it all" small compact, probably the best of the small compacts in terms of balance between size and capability. The 3025E is definitely not a machine that can do everything, or at least not well. But it is a heavier duty tractor tractor that can handle bigger tasks and can put a lot more power to the ground because of the large tires (if you ballast them) and because it's heavier. The loader is also substantially stronger.

    Also, the 3025E has almost the same engine as the 2032R and the 3033R, either just detuned or running different components (almost identical model number and identical displacement (100.2 cu in/1.642L)). This is important because the less power you squeeze out of a given engine size, the longer it's going to last (as a general rule).
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