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    JD better step up their 2-series game - i.e. new Kubota Swift-tach loader

    I'm assuming JD and Kubota will continue to leap-frop each other with compact and sub-compact tractor features. The new Kubota LA435 Swift-Tach loader for their B2-series looks like a huge improvement. Single point attach is now standard. SSQA is available as is mechanical self-leveling which is rare on a tractor/loader of this size.

    Given what JD charges customers for the single-point coupler on the 220R loaders I'm surprised Kubota is making it standard equipment.

    Hopefully there will be a 230R loader soon. :-)

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    That's pretty cool.
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    I ain't scared, all the fancy in the world doesn't make up for that stupid go go peddle. How many songs have you ever heard about a big orange tractor.
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    They don't write songs in the Corporate office......

    Pretty cool.

    Competition is good. That is why they keep score in baseball.

    As a former B3200 owner, the product is just as good as the green stuff.

    If they get the backhoe connection as simple as the 375A/385A........

    Not a deal breaker for me. I have only removed my loader once.... To install the lines for 3rd function.
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    To me the self leveling bucket is the game changer, not the quick attach.
    If you use forks a lot, then the self leveling bucket is a great option. It is even a great option when using a bucket.
    How many stories have been posted about people dumping large objects off of the back of the bucket & onto the hood of the tractor or themselves?
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    Just because something is “standard“ equipment, doesn’t mean you don’t pay extra for it.
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    Its good to have competition, keeps everyone on their toes.

    That said I do like the hose attach setup, but it in no way would make me buy one brand over another.
    The bucket leveler holds nothing for me.
    I use a grapple 99% of the time, I don't have forks, they are inferior to a grapple for my uses.
    I see no advantage to keeping the grapple level. The angle/level of the grapple is a minor thing compared to being able to grab and clamp something in the grapple.

    Some of these innovations are nice but in no way are they enough to make me get rid of my over a decade older tractor.
    Especially considering the downsides of buying a new tractor with added emissions equipment.

    For sure all these little innovations and improvements are nice but in the end they don't really offer a great improvement in function. What can the tractor do? I can still lift, haul, pull and power attachments with a decades older tractor. Until they make a improvement that really adds a function that I need or can use I'm sticking with what I got.

    At certain point all this is just gilding on the lily.

    Are the "modern" compact tractors for the home owner/hobbyist built so good that minor little things are that's left?
    Seems so. All my experience with these things has been very good, and I have only owned decade or older stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2032Ranger View Post
    Just because something is “standard“ equipment, doesn’t mean you don’t pay extra for it.
    True. But JD/Kubota prices are already very competitive and JD is going to make you pay $700 extra for the single-point attach AND you can't even get it for the 1-series. JD will make their's standard - wait and see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klunker View Post
    That said I do like the hose attach setup, but it in no way would make me buy one brand over another.
    The bucket leveler holds nothing for me.
    I use a grapple 99% of the time, I don't have forks, they are inferior to a grapple for my uses.
    I see no advantage to keeping the grapple level. The angle/level of the grapple is a minor thing compared to being able to grab and clamp something in the grapple.
    Even with a self-leveling loader you can still manually adjust dump/curl with the joystick. :-) So you can have your cake and eat it too.

    I don't see an advantage for leveling heaping loads in the bucket as it reduces what you can haul. But it is the best thing since sliced bread when using forks.

    Some MSL systems reduce the lifting capacity while others can increase it slightly. Kubota hasn't yet listed what effect the MSL has on this loader.
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    Curl force is increased with MSL, and I love it when I'm using my grapple, forks, or bucket. I really love it when my wife is lifting me in the bucket to do something. The only down sides sre that it increases the moving parts, and you lose some curl back rotation. It's not enough that you lose any carrying capacity, though.
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