I have any of you been on Tractor by Net lately? I am trying to figure out what is up with all the JD bashing (and even Kubota bashing) on that site now. Some of the comments are very annoying especially when stating that the JD 4000 series tractors specs are well below all the other manufactures. Sure the 4000 series are older now, but I still think they can go toe-to-toe against any other manufacturer out there, and in some cases, they are tanks compared to other manufactures tractors. It is just irritating to see some individuals leading discussions on tractor specs when they do not even understand how they are derived. Then it is the same old statements that JD is way too expensive for what you get when you can purchase another manufacturer's tractor for $10K less, and get a tractor, just as good, if not better than a JD. They also love to discuss how much weaker the 400X and 400CX loaders are against the competitions' loaders based on the pivot pin spec, which what you never measure anyways; they do not ever discuss the loader cycle times that are just as crucial. It is just aggravating to see a number of individuals who bash JD (even Kubota and New Holland) having no idea what they are really talking about and watching people jump on their band wagon. It just seems that there are too many "Spec Jockeys" over there with paper knowledge and not enough real world experience. Owning a 4520, I do have a bias, but am missing something about the 4000 series that is making them antiquated or not up to par with the other "less" expensive manufactures out there? Thanks for the time.