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    Oil Consumption in New Cars

    What's up with oil consumption in newer designed cars. I really think 1 quart in 1200 - 2000 miles is a bit much on a newer car.
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    Where did you find someone that calls that acceptable? Seems wrong to me, especially on a new car.

    I will say, it's not terribly shocking if it's true. A little, but with the ever- present push for better fuel mileage manufacturers are going to lighter and lighter weight oils. Not terribly surprising that thinner oil could get past the rings, etc and be used.
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    20 years ago burning a quart in a new engine was normal because the piston rings would have to seat into the cross hatch in the cylinder walls, which was known as the engine break in period. Piston ring technology and the cylinder honing process has drastically changed. If you're burning a quart in your 1st 2,000 I think it is odd, but maybe not a problem. If you burn another quart in your next 2,000 I would say there is a problem your dealer and warranty need to address for you.
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    There has been an ongoing issue on some Chevy and GMC trucks with high oil consumption. The exact year models and engines escapes me at the moment. Busy working on a tractor right now.



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    A women came in store the other day bought a 6 pack of 0-20 , or 5-20 can't remember weight of oil . Said she had a 12 or 2013 Jeep, using more than a qt of oil every Tank full of GAS. for some reason , I'm thinking it was less than 250 miles per qt . She was told by the dealer this is NORMAL. Hard to believe this would be normal .,,I advised her to go to a different dealer or contact Jeep. Don't know what engine , 4 -6 - or 8 cyl. either way ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by etcallhome View Post
    A women came in store the other day bought a 6 pack of 0-20 , or 5-20 can't remember weight of oil . Said she had a 12 or 2013 Jeep, using more than a qt of oil every Tank full of GAS. for some reason , I'm thinking it was less than 250 miles per qt . She was told by the dealer this is NORMAL. Hard to believe this would be normal .,,I advised her to go to a different dealer or contact Jeep. Don't know what engine , 4 -6 - or 8 cyl. either way ..
    Any engine whether new or ancient that burns a quart of oil every tank of gas has serious problems! For a vehicle that is a 2012 or 2013 that engine should be taken out and fixed. To burn oil that bad the piston rings must be shot already or maybe someone came into work drunk and put a ring or two on the piston upside down at the factory. The valve seals or valve guides are extremely worn. None of this should happen in a vehicle that new. Or there's a good sized leak somewhere.
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    I bet there's a leak. It would be smoking something terrible if it burned that much. I'd definitely find a new dealer.

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    My 2012 Chevy Silverado 2500hd 6.0 gas, that I bought new, used 0 amount of oil from 3 miles on the OD when I purchased. I just traded it 2 weeks ago it had 43,000 miles on it.

    That truck was worked HARD... That's my only experience... but I'd agree with the sentiment that you COULD blow through some oil ONLY during break in... but after that the engine better be tight as a drum at least to 100k, if not 200k.
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    Per GM guidelines the accepted rate of oil consumption for engines is 0.946 liter (1 qt) in 3200 km (2000 mi). For the most part most GM vehicles are well within those guidelines. There have been some piston ring sealing issues mostly higher mileage (40k-up) together with extended oil change intervals, some owners have gone 8-12K mi or more between oil changes thanks partly to GM's engine oil life monitoring system which GM has realized and has released ECM updates to address that issue on certain models, even with the OLMS updates 5-6k mi is the norm oil change interval. GM Dexos1 spec oil for most engines is synthetic blend 5w30 and 0w-20 for the new 2014 5.3 and 6.2L V-8 truck engines and the Duramax 6.6L diesel is still using conventional 15W-40 and a very few high output gas engines that require full synthetic 5W-30 (Mobil 1). Another problem is the lack of necessary detergents in none "top tier" fuels (gasoline) which contributes to piston and ring carbon buildup which can lead to excessive oil consumption along with fuel injector issues. It is amazing the amount of HP they can squeeze out of these higher revving 4 banger engines today and still stay together as well as they do, be it GM or any other mfg.
    This is just my .02 worth being a GM dealer tech, your mileage may very.
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