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    Lying and Being Deceitful and Proud of it. Sad statement about Professional Baseball.

    I have a real problem with the 3rd Baseman in MLB who "faked" the foul ball catch with a "rubber ball" that apparently one of the spectators had brought to the game in a bag, which is shown in the video when the player goes over the wall.

    Here is the story for those who missed it.

    https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...t-the-dodgers/

    Basically, from what I have seen, the 3rd baseman (and I am NOT a baseball fan so the players name means nothing to me....) dove into the stands to attempt to catch a foul ball. He went completely over the front of the seating area and out of sight. When he landed, he never had possession of the actual baseball. Watch the video I linked above.

    He saw this rubber ball lying there which he had knocked out of a fans bag when he went over the railing, and he grabs it, puts it in his mitt and the Umpire arrived on the scene after the player had been over the railing and wall and out of sight for several seconds. The Umpire is shown calling the batter out and the 3rd baseman player says nothing.......He throws the rubber ball into the stands immediately, meanwhile, a spectator actually has the REAL baseball and is shown on video tape.

    Later on, it was revealed that the player had in fact dropped the ball (in fact, never caught it apparently) and "faked" the out with the "rubber ball". The 3rd baseman, from what I saw, jokingly said he thought about throwing the rubber ball to the pitcher to pitch with.

    The 3rd baseman also "JUSTIFIED" his actions by saying something stupid like "It's Hollywood so you have to act" or some other justification for his deceit and lying.

    I am sorry, but the player should be sanctioned for knowingly deceiving the umpire. He should be ashamed he is a liar, he is NOT an "actor". I don't find the humor in this that many seem to thinking it's "funny" he got away with it for calling the out. If he was a person of integrity, he would have not faked the catch and he would have simply been given credit for a remarkable effort to attempt to catch the foul ball.

    When I mentioned this to two neighbors, they basically said "Oh, it's no big deal, it's just a game." I disagree. It's the chance to be honest and do things right or its the chance to be a liar and deceptive to millions of very impressionable young people. The ball player had the chance to do the right thing, which was to be honest and admit he dropped the ball (or never actually caught it), but he didn't. Truth is had he picked up the actual correct baseball after dropping it, nobody probably would have noticed, but it still would have been just as wrong.

    The message this sends is "win at any cost" and "do whatever it takes to win" even if its dishonest, deceitful and demonstrates a major void in one's character.

    "It was one of those things where I think any third baseman or any player trying to win would do it," said Frazier. (Frazier is the player who faked the play and lied.)

    I find this story very sad and disappointing. I am also bothered that the players statement is a horrible role model for young people. The moral character of many in our nation continues to swirl in the bowl after being flushed with unacceptable behavior, such as this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SulleyBear View Post
    I have a real problem with the 3rd Baseman in MLB who "faked" the foul ball catch with a "rubber ball" that apparently one of the spectators had brought to the game in a bag, which is shown in the video when the player goes over the wall.

    Here is the story for those who missed it.

    https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...t-the-dodgers/

    Basically, from what I have seen, the 3rd baseman (and I am NOT a baseball fan so the players name means nothing to me....) dove into the stands to attempt to catch a foul ball. He went completely over the front of the seating area and out of sight. When he landed, he never had possession of the actual baseball. Watch the video I linked above.

    He saw this rubber ball lying there which he had knocked out of a fans bag when he went over the railing, and he grabs it, puts it in his mitt and the Umpire arrived on the scene after the player had been over the railing and wall and out of sight for several seconds. The Umpire is shown calling the batter out and the 3rd baseman player says nothing.......He throws the rubber ball into the stands immediately, meanwhile, a spectator actually has the REAL baseball and is shown on video tape.

    Later on, it was revealed that the player had in fact dropped the ball (in fact, never caught it apparently) and "faked" the out with the "rubber ball". The 3rd baseman, from what I saw, jokingly said he thought about throwing the rubber ball to the pitcher to pitch with.

    The 3rd baseman also "JUSTIFIED" his actions by saying something stupid like "It's Hollywood so you have to act" or some other justification for his deceit and lying.

    I am sorry, but the player should be sanctioned for knowingly deceiving the umpire. He should be ashamed he is a liar, he is NOT an "actor". I don't find the humor in this that many seem to thinking it's "funny" he got away with it for calling the out. If he was a person of integrity, he would have not faked the catch and he would have simply been given credit for a remarkable effort to attempt to catch the foul ball.

    When I mentioned this to two neighbors, they basically said "Oh, it's no big deal, it's just a game." I disagree. It's the chance to be honest and do things right or its the chance to be a liar and deceptive to millions of very impressionable young people. The ball player had the chance to do the right thing, which was to be honest and admit he dropped the ball (or never actually caught it), but he didn't. Truth is had he picked up the actual correct baseball after dropping it, nobody probably would have noticed, but it still would have been just as wrong.

    The message this sends is "win at any cost" and "do whatever it takes to win" even if its dishonest, deceitful and demonstrates a major void in one's character.

    "It was one of those things where I think any third baseman or any player trying to win would do it," said Frazier. (Frazier is the player who faked the play and lied.)

    I find this story very sad and disappointing. I am also bothered that the players statement is a horrible role model for young people. The moral character of many in our nation continues to swirl in the bowl after being flushed with unacceptable behavior, such as this.
    Welcome to the world of professional athletes. This may not have had any meaningful impact on the outcome of that particular game but it certainly could of in a pendant race or world series. He should be fined and suspended. Its cheating regardless of the stated intent.


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    What can I say. . .

    It's clear that the player doesn't respect the game, the other team or the umpires. Some of his team mates should instruct him in the difference between winning on your own efforts and talent and cheating just to get a win.

    I'm not a golfer but one of the good parts of the game is the emphasis that true students of the game put on playing legally and the requirement to fess up if you violate the rules. Reportedly, neither Barrack Obama nor Bill Clinton followed that ethical practices but that's their problem, not a problem with the sport.

    IMHO those who don't follow the rules will eventually kill sports of all kind. Our daughter played high school soccer and collegiate women's rugby.
    She had an interesting take on the two sports. Soccer was a polite sport played by ruffians. Rugby is a hooligan's sport played by gentlemen (and gentlewomen). In watching the games, I saw a lot of attempted cheating in soccer, very little in rugby. Of course these were all amateur sports with only pride on the line as opposed to millions of dollars.

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    just makes me ashamed to share the same last name. and it's even spelled the same way too, as i've seen my last name spelled differently.

    i don't think he realizes just how bad of a thing he did too.
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    As a baseball fan, but not of either team in the video, this is what ticks me off. Every day some baseball player, manager or coach is complaining about the umpires. They canít tell a strike from a ball, the canít tell whatís an out from a tire fire. Then this yahoo does this. As far as Iím concerned there is proof it was a rubber ball, the player even admitted it. His team forfeits the game.


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    Seems to me we spend a lifetime trying to figure out what life's rules are and trying our best to follow them. It's a sad commentary when we sacrifice our integrity, as in this instance. To me that's a much greater loss than the perceived gain. I know that it happens in every profession, my own included, but it was comforting for me to know that I always did my best without being dishonest. I suspect this player will have this hanging over him for the rest of his life. Was it worth it?

    I liked the analogy that Soccer was a polite sport played by ruffians. Three of my grand kids played soccer, including my only grand daughter. She was my little Princess; and a real girly girl...but growing up with two older brothers, she learned to give as good as she got on the soccer field. I couldn't believe my eyes when she flattened a bully that had deliberately fouled her!
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    WOW,, a lot of young boys and girls look up to these Professional players.
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    now for them to see something like this. CRAZY.
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    As long as he stands for the National Anthem Iím good with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fade2Blk View Post
    As long as he stands for the National Anthem Iím good with it.


    That creates a lot of mixed emotions for me...you know, like when your sixteen year old daughter comes home at 3:00 in the morning with a Gideon bible under her arm.
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    He should switch to the Harlem Globe Trotters. Where jokes (not cheating) are expected. No disrespect to the Harlem Globe Trotters
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