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    Signs of Winter?

    Do you guys look for signs of winter, as in how bad or mild winter might be. I kinda do, as Iíve heard of several ways or myths on what winter may bring. Farmers almanac was watched by my Grandpa and I remember my Dad saying a few things that would indicate what type of winter it will be. Does anybody else believe anything indicators?

    >Today I saw a Wooly Worm, which my Dad would say The wider the brown strip(see pic). The milder the winter.
    > Lots of Acorns meet and snowy winter
    > Squirrels tails bushy meet a hard snowy winter.
    >I watch a guy in the Upper Peninsula that does private forecasts and he does a prediction every year (see pic). He admits,
    and donít put a whole lot of weight on it but does one every fall.
    > Horses and Cattle with heavy coats mean hard winter.

    I would say strip on Worm is wide.
    Everything else I see here would indicate a average or hard winter. Lots of acorns this year. Cattle are starting heavy coats already, John Dee states average winter in his prediction.


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    I find the Farmers Almanac is surprisingly accurate considering how far out it is published and how long they have been doing it.

    Our squirrels have been working overtime gathering nuts. They have post it notes plastered all over the place.......

    Since our weather this year has been more extreme, I am expecting a hard winter. We have had record amounts of rain and if that precipitation trend continues, it will mean a lot of lake effect snow for us. We had 4 different rain storms this year where we received 5" of rain or more in the storm and that's unusual. One of the storms, we received nearly 8" of rain in about 18 hours.

    We have also had a cooler summer for the most part and if that trend continues, it bodes well for lake effect snow. Prevailing westerly winds over the lake waters is a snow machine. I think there are only a hand full of times in my life where Lake Michigan has frozen all the way across and when that happens, the snow amounts suddenly come to a halt. Otherwise, the warmer waters in the lake will generally increase snowfall amounts.

    We didn't have any measurable snow until December 12th last winter and very little after Mid February, but in the meantime, we had enough snow that I plowed 45 times from Mid December to Mid February and that's a period of a little more than 60 days. I don't plow unless there is new snowfall of 3" to 4" or drifts of 10" or more with bare ground spots as many newer cars will get stuck in the drifts that deep because of the snow being packed so tight with the winds.

    We had this happen 4 different times this summer, between May and August, and this is normally a corn field. In 20 years, I have see this field flooded probably 6 to 8 times and 4 of them were this summer........Based upon that weather extreme, I am expecting more snowfall than normal. I hope we get the snow we had last year, except it continues beyond mid February, perhaps into late March would be good for snow plowing business.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmich View Post
    Do you guys look for signs of winter, as in how bad or mild winter might be. I kinda do, as Iíve heard of several ways or myths on what winter may bring. Farmers almanac was watched by my Grandpa and I remember my Dad saying a few things that would indicate what type of winter it will be. Does anybody else believe anything indicators?

    >Today I saw a Wooly Worm, which my Dad would say The wider the brown strip(see pic). The milder the winter.
    > Lots of Acorns meet and snowy winter
    > Squirrels tails bushy meet a hard snowy winter.
    >I watch a guy in the Upper Peninsula that does private forecasts and he does a prediction every year (see pic). He admits,
    and donít put a whole lot of weight on it but does one every fall.
    > Horses and Cattle with heavy coats mean hard winter.

    I would say strip on Worm is wide.
    Everything else I see here would indicate a average or hard winter. Lots of acorns this year. Cattle are starting heavy coats already, John Dee states average winter in his prediction.


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    Long range forecasts based on actual metrological data are more crapshoot than not.

    The idea that caterpillar stripes (acorns, horse hair) are a predictor of the weather is as much nonsense as hemlines being a predictor of the stock market.

    Current PNA+ and ENSO+ make it probable for a warmer than average winter in the west and northeast.

    As Yogi Berra said: If you have a 50/50 chance of being right, 9 times out of 10 you'll be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlKozak View Post
    Long range forecasts based on actual metrological data are more crapshoot than not.

    The idea that caterpillar stripes (acorns, horse hair) are a predictor of the weather is as much nonsense as hemlines being a predictor of the stock market.

    Current PNA+ and ENSO+ make it probable for a warmer than average winter in the west and northeast.

    As Yogi Berra said: If you have a 50/50 chance of being right, 9 times out of 10 you'll be wrong.

    Al
    Thanks....but let me say and make it clear. I don’t put a lot off faith in any of these just though it is fun to look at all the Mother Nature things that may show some insight. I also think of my elders that tought me so much and makes me giggle thinking of all the old sayings and wise tales of my Dad and Grandpa. With that I ALWAYS wish for a snowy winter and I guess it’s my urge to get my hopes up.

    P.S. I’ll know more in late March
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    Just listen to the weather man... if he / she says warm and sunny... get the plows ready!

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    Signs of a Long, Cold, Winter

    It was October and the Indians on a remote reservation asked their new Chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild.

    Since he was a Chief in a modern society he had never been taught the old secrets.

    When he looked at the sky he couldn't tell what the winter was going to be like.

    Nevertheless, to be on the safe side he told his tribe that the winter was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should collect firewood to be prepared.

    But being a practical leader, after several days he got an idea. He went to the phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked, "Is the coming winter going to be cold?"

    "It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold," the meteorologist at the weather service responded.

    So the Chief went back to his people and told them to collect even more firewood in order to be prepared.

    A week later he called the National Weather Service again. "Does it still look like it is going to be a very cold winter?"

    "Yes," the man at National Weather Service again replied, "it's going to be a very cold winter."

    The Chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect every scrap of firewood they could find.

    Two weeks later the Chief called the National Weather Service again. "Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?"

    "Absolutely," the man replied. "It's looking more and more like it is going to be one of the coldest winters ever."

    "How can you be so sure?" the Chief asked.

    The weatherman replied, "We're sure it's going to be cold because the Indians are collecting firewood like crazy!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by spferdil View Post
    It was October and the Indians on a remote reservation asked their new Chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild.

    Since he was a Chief in a modern society he had never been taught the old secrets.

    When he looked at the sky he couldn't tell what the winter was going to be like.

    Nevertheless, to be on the safe side he told his tribe that the winter was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should collect firewood to be prepared.

    But being a practical leader, after several days he got an idea. He went to the phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked, "Is the coming winter going to be cold?"

    "It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold," the meteorologist at the weather service responded.

    So the Chief went back to his people and told them to collect even more firewood in order to be prepared.

    A week later he called the National Weather Service again. "Does it still look like it is going to be a very cold winter?"

    "Yes," the man at National Weather Service again replied, "it's going to be a very cold winter."

    The Chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect every scrap of firewood they could find.

    Two weeks later the Chief called the National Weather Service again. "Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?"

    "Absolutely," the man replied. "It's looking more and more like it is going to be one of the coldest winters ever."

    "How can you be so sure?" the Chief asked.

    The weatherman replied, "We're sure it's going to be cold because the Indians are collecting firewood like crazy!"
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    SQUIRRELS

    We have a Chestnut tree that we collect the nuts from for a few friends. Normally I have a little bit of competition from the squirrels but if I get out there near day break I can usually beat them to it.

    Until this year. They attacked the tree earlier than usual. The first two weeks the nuts started falling I went out at day break and managed to get a bucket full in two weeks (~10 lbs). That was it. After that there were 3-4 squirrels working that tree from sun up to sun down. They didn't even wait for the nuts to fall. They would climb the tree and hang from the ends of the limbs like a Christmas ornament and grab the spiny hulls while they were still green.

    They did this for weeks. I went out every morning at day break and there were plenty of empty hulls but not a single nut. I would guess that so far I have cleaned up about 200 lbs worth of empty hulls and yet have not found a single nut. By this time last year I would have had another 20-25 lbs. of nuts. We now find empty hulls around every tree in the yard and most of the trees in the neighbors yards. Again, we have never seen the squirrels carry the hulls so far away before.

    I've never seen the squirrels do this before. Maybe they know something about the upcoming winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    SQUIRRELS

    We have a Chestnut tree that we collect the nuts from for a few friends. Normally I have a little bit of competition from the squirrels but if I get out there near day break I can usually beat them to it.

    Until this year. They attacked the tree earlier than usual. The first two weeks the nuts started falling I went out at day break and managed to get a bucket full in two weeks (~10 lbs). That was it. After that there were 3-4 squirrels working that tree from sun up to sun down. They didn't even wait for the nuts to fall. They would climb the tree and hang from the ends of the limbs like a Christmas ornament and grab the spiny hulls while they were still green.

    They did this for weeks. I went out every morning at day break and there were plenty of empty hulls but not a single nut. I would guess that so far I have cleaned up about 200 lbs worth of empty hulls and yet have not found a single nut. By this time last year I would have had another 20-25 lbs. of nuts. We now find empty hulls around every tree in the yard and most of the trees in the neighbors yards. Again, we have never seen the squirrels carry the hulls so far away before.

    I've never seen the squirrels do this before. Maybe they know something about the upcoming winter.
    Well, your wooley worm is very pessimistic. The one I saw was black at the tip and light brown the rest of the way down his body. I like his prediction. Mild all the way to spring.

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    I like this guy.

    Geared towards my neck of the woods (upstate NY), but he's an actual meteorologist and his explanations of global weather patterns and what they mean in the short term (10 days out) are pretty spot on.

    To be clear, I want snow. Lots of it.

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