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    If you think Microsoft can't sink any lower...

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    Was wondering when they would start tightening the vise for real.
    Guess now I know.
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    As if we needed another reason to try one of the many linux distributions. With the recent discussions in the thread http://www.greentractortalk.com/foru...tribution.html, I know I'll be taking a good long look at Mint for a laptop rebuild that's on the horizon.
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    Hiya,

    Relax, this isn't a new concept in the CPU/OS world. It's not that Win 10 is the only OS that will run on the new chipsets, it's just the only one "that's supported". That means that if you get a new processor, install Win7 on it, it may not run well and if you call MS for support, they won't support it. The same thing happened when Intel released the 64 bit Core2Duo, all those 16 bit DOS, Windows 95/98/ME users were left behind in the dust.

    The story here is that as chips progress, the old architecture is not carried forward. Since the older OS doesn't know about the new chip design, it won't work unless the code is updated. MS has said that Win 10 is the last non server OS they will publish, from now on, there will just be "service branches" (service pack updates) that will update the OS to current hardware. Mac has done the same with iOS10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomd999 View Post
    Hiya,

    Relax, this isn't a new concept in the CPU/OS world. It's not that Win 10 is the only OS that will run on the new chipsets, it's just the only one "that's supported". That means that if you get a new processor, install Win7 on it, it may not run well and if you call MS for support, they won't support it. The same thing happened when Intel released the 64 bit Core2Duo, all those 16 bit DOS, Windows 95/98/ME users were left behind in the dust.

    The story here is that as chips progress, the old architecture is not carried forward. Since the older OS doesn't know about the new chip design, it won't work unless the code is updated. MS has said that Win 10 is the last non server OS they will publish, from now on, there will just be "service branches" (service pack updates) that will update the OS to current hardware. Mac has done the same with iOS10.
    ^^^^^^^^^
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    Actually, IMHO, if you are in the market for a "next gen" why would you want anything less than the latest OS anyway. Personally, now that I have it, I think Win 10 is awesome. I was a very skeptical "upgrader" from Win 7. Worried about what architecture we will be stuck with from here on out. Man, what a relief to see how little it's changed to the eye, but much more efficient under the hood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glc View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^
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    Actually, IMHO, if you are in the market for a "next gen" why would you want anything less than the latest OS anyway. Personally, now that I have it, I think Win 10 is awesome. I was a very skeptical "upgrader" from Win 7. Worried about what architecture we will be stuck with from here on out. Man, what a relief to see how little it's changed to the eye, but much more efficient under the hood.
    Still don't like the feeling we're being "herded" by Microsoft in a heavy handed way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glc View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^
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    Actually, IMHO, if you are in the market for a "next gen" why would you want anything less than the latest OS anyway. Personally, now that I have it, I think Win 10 is awesome. I was a very skeptical "upgrader" from Win 7. Worried about what architecture we will be stuck with from here on out. Man, what a relief to see how little it's changed to the eye, but much more efficient under the hood.

    Win 10 is great. I have been using it since it came out in late July. If you do not like the way it looks, you can download a free client at Classic Shell - Start menu and other Windows enhancements to make it look like older Windows versions, but enjoy the benefits of the newest version. You just as well get used to it as you will no longer be able to buy the older versions and your PC will only last so long, before you have to replace it. This is not Win8, but a new versions where they have brought back the start menu. I still do part-time computer work and I only have one client who decided he wanted the old Windows look. All the others have been just fine with it, including some who will admit they are not computer literate. A little trick to help you along with the new version: right click on the start menu button and you will see all the old menu choices, such as Control Panel, etc. By the way, this also worked with Win 8.1. When I can't find something quick enough in the Win 10 systems menu, I use the right click method.

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    I mentioned most of this in the Windows 10 Thread but it is worth mentioning again. All of our machines have been upgraded to Win10. I have been using it since early Beta releases on some virtual systems. Really it isn't that bad but the areas that I have seen the most complaints have to do with removed features like Media Player. Now there is no free player for DVD movies and ripping MP3s. Also there are privacy concerns. I mentioned that there is Spybot Anti-Beacon which is a great way of addressing any privacy issues.


    My new home computer runs a i7-6700K which is a LGA 1151 socket Skylake processor so it is advised that I upgrade to Win10. I had installed Win10 on it anyhow when I built the PC and for any applications that need an older OS I run HyperV with either a Win 7 and a XP machine. With 32GB of RAM in the main machine, it doesn't even notice the VMs running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Cajun View Post
    Still don't like the feeling we're being "herded" by Microsoft in a heavy handed way.
    its all part of the plan, oc. if you want to know what that is, pm me and i'll tell you- i wouldnt want to scare anyone with a conspiracy theory!
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