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    New 1025r with 60" deck, should I switch for 54" while I can?

    Hello folks,

    New to posting but been lurking here for a couple years. I just put a down payment on a 1025R with the H120 and the 60" MMM. I haven't taken delivery yet and have been thinking I may ask my dealer if I can roll a couple of implements into the order and take advantage of the financing. At the same time, I've been reading a whole lot about the 60" mower and have seen quite a bit about the leveling and height issues that you see (especially when not adjusted properly).

    I am buying this tractor because we just purchased a home in the country with around 3 acres. Much if it is sloped in one way or another. There are many trees and other obstacles.

    Given all this - if you were me, would you elect for the 60" or forgo and get the 54" (which would theoretically give me a few more bucks to spend on a plow or the i-match hitch. Why?

    As an aside, has John Deere made any changes to the deck suspension to address the issues folks have been noting for a couple years now? I think I'm getting a 2017 1025r so was hoping maybe they have made a few engineering changes to address the deck leveling/height issues.

    Thanks for any input you can give folks!
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    For me I went back to 54" Happy as H_ _ _.. Hated the way my back yard looked using the 60".
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    I went with a 54" deck based on many comments about the cut quality issues with the 60" deck on slopes and uneven ground. The 54" cuts well but still doesn't cut as well as my 48" GT 235. I planned on selling it once I took delivery of my 1025r but have decided to keep it for mowing.

    Unless your cutting big yards instead of small to medium sized lawns, I would go with the 54". To me there is a difference between a yard and a lawn. TIFWIW


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    I have a similar size property and wouldn't have anything other than the 60" deck.
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    I have the 60 and a rough sloped lawn. Left side really digs in, right side not as much. I bought a D130 with a 42" deck. Does the same thing, just more rows now.

    The 60D is a much heavier duty than the 54. If it's just lawn, the 54" will do better. For me, I mow fields and trails and the construction of the 60D Justifies the nuisance of gouging.
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    Good input folks. Does anybody have any input on the integrity of the decks? I know the 60" is "7d" so theoretically should last longer? Do any of you folks who had both notice any difference in build quality between the 54 and 60?
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    I have the 60 inch on my 1025R, and had the 60 inch on the x748. My vote is for the 60 inch. Since the deck is bigger, any sway or angles are exaggerated more - so the scalping is a little worse on the 60. Scalping can be diminished I believe based on the direction of mowing on a slope, as well as adjustment of the antiscalp wheels.

    What the 60 does for you is let you get in much closer to fences, trees, and any other obstacles - the deck sticks out much further from the tractor, so that the operator station does not have to be right on top of the edge of what you're mowing. Obviously a larger deck also means fewer passes. But my thought is the big advantage is being able to get in closer, and also leaves a smaller uncut circle, since the deck is bigger. I don't think you can go wrong either way. I do know the 60 inch can be a tight fit on some landscape trailers. Also the 1025R has plenty of torque to power the 60 inch deck under all conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by ryugreen View Post
    Hello folks,

    New to posting but been lurking here for a couple years. I just put a down payment on a 1025R with the H120 and the 60" MMM. I haven't taken delivery yet and have been thinking I may ask my dealer if I can roll a couple of implements into the order and take advantage of the financing. At the same time, I've been reading a whole lot about the 60" mower and have seen quite a bit about the leveling and height issues that you see (especially when not adjusted properly).

    I am buying this tractor because we just purchased a home in the country with around 3 acres. Much if it is sloped in one way or another. There are many trees and other obstacles.

    Given all this - if you were me, would you elect for the 60" or forgo and get the 54" (which would theoretically give me a few more bucks to spend on a plow or the i-match hitch. Why?

    As an aside, has John Deere made any changes to the deck suspension to address the issues folks have been noting for a couple years now? I think I'm getting a 2017 1025r so was hoping maybe they have made a few engineering changes to address the deck leveling/height issues.

    Thanks for any input you can give folks!
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    I like my 54" and have it for getting between tree, I like it and my yard/lawn has some pretty bad slopes. i have to say the smaller size doesn't bother me because i only get about an hour and a half of seat time, which I enjoy. Plus I have a lot of shade so it is both comfortable to be out on it and the lawn in summer only needs to be cut every few weeks. As opposed to the fall when i do leaves twice a week.

    I can really appreciate the argument for both sizes, as far as durability goes? i'm guessing the 54" if kept inside and maintained will go 15 to 20 years, with only a weld job for when you whack something good. I have a 25 year old 48" deck that has only needed repair once. The 54D is better built than that WH 48"....

    Best of luck on your new SCUT and your decision.
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    I recently took delivery of my new 1025r with the h120 and 54D MMM. I went back forth several times regarding the 54 vs. the 60 and finally decided on the 54. I had an x590 with 54" deck before that worked great. I mow about an acre and a half that is a little rough with several swales and shallow ditches. I mowed for the first time yesterday and am glad I went with the 54. I had some minor scalping here and there, but suspect once I level the deck all will be well. I have one spot between a fence and tree where the 54 just fits and the 60 wouldn't. Given all the 20 and 30 year decks still in use, I don't really see any durability issues arising with the 54, but I suppose only time will tell.
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    I know there are many JD users that swear by their 54D and many swear by their 60D.
    The biggest complaint you see concerning the 60D 7 iron is scalping. I have a 60D and I truly believe those that have scalping problems are lowering the MMM too far. and possibly do not have the deck set up correctly. Because the 60D is deep, there isn't much movement between totally raised and the 3" mowing height. I mow my lawn at 3" and my 60D does a fantastic job and my yard is extremely hilly.
    Scalping will happen on any MMM if you mow over the crest of a hill or try to mow with the MMM too low.
    Now, I have mine set up correctly and only lower it to the 3 on the height control which is a 3" cut height.
    The 60D is a premier MMM. Set up correctly and if you mow at 3", this MMM is probably the best MMM built today.

    54D Mower Type Mulch or Side Discharge
    Cutting Blades 3
    Overall Width 1.74 m (68.5 in.)
    Overall Length 1.75 m (69 in.)
    Cutting Height* 2.5-10.2 cm (1-4 in.)
    Cutting Width 1.37 m (54 in.)
    Mower Weight 89 kg (197 lb)
    Blade Bolt Torque 68 N•m (50 lb-ft)
    Gearbox Oil Capacity 136 ml (4.6 oz)
    *May vary depending on tire size.
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    Mower Type Mulch or Side Discharge
    Cutting Blades 3
    Overall Width 1.85 m (72.8 in.)
    Overall Length 1.82 m (71.6 in.)
    Cutting Height* 2.5-10.2 cm (1-4 in.)
    Cutting Width 1.52 m (60 in.)
    Mower Weight 117 kg (258 lb)
    Blade Bolt Torque 122 N•m (90 lb-ft)
    Gearbox Oil Capacity 136 ml (4.6 oz)
    *May vary depending on tire size.
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