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    How the 1025R should have been delivered

    I had to order some parts this week and decided that while I was at it, I would correct this horrible mistake that JD made...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jphavener View Post
    I had to order some parts this week and decided that while I was at it, I would correct this horrible mistake that JD made...
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    Not a fan of bio diesel, huh?
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    Bio is fine. Don't need to pay the taxes for the on road diesel though.

    I associate the color difference as on vs off road diesel, as I know that the taxed diesel pumps have the green handles and have had many years prior to bio diesel becoming popular.

    So is that what deere defines the colors as? Bio vs non-bio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jphavener View Post
    Bio is fine. Don't need to pay the taxes for the on road diesel though.

    I associate the color difference as on vs off road diesel, as I know that the taxed diesel pumps have the green handles and have had many years prior to bio diesel becoming popular.

    So is that what deere defines the colors as? Bio vs non-bio?

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    I always thought the new green caps that are appearing means it is bio diesel compatable, but it could be the green cap is some international standard, as we move to a new world order.
    I have to go stock my bunker now.
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    Red- Gasoline
    Green - Diesel
    I believe this is the new standard... Somebody correct me if I am wrong.

    When my dealer dropped off my machine they told me not to put off road diesel into it until after the warranty is over. They stated that, if I ever had starting issues or anything dealing with the motor and/or fuel system, John Deere would void the warranty if they saw died fluids in the tank. I would hate to see what they would say and do if they say bio-diesel in the tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsdunay View Post
    Red- Gasoline
    Green - Diesel
    I believe this is the new standard... Somebody correct me if I am wrong.

    When my dealer dropped off my machine they told me not to put off road diesel into it until after the warranty is over. They stated that, if I ever had starting issues or anything dealing with the motor and/or fuel system, John Deere would void the warranty if they saw died fluids in the tank. I would hate to see what they would say and do if they say bio-diesel in the tank.
    That makes me angry to hear that. There is no difference between off road and on road diesel besides the dye. I also try to avoid bio blends, but check your operator manual, and I bet it says blends up to 5 % bio are OK, and blends up to 20% are OK with a dealer installed kit (which I think might be a fuel heater). I bet there is no mention of OFF road or ON road. Deere usually just lists the specs for the fuel that they require, like cetane and lubricity.
    Your dealer is stuck in the 80's
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsdunay View Post
    Red- Gasoline
    Green - Diesel
    I believe this is the new standard... Somebody correct me if I am wrong.

    When my dealer dropped off my machine they told me not to put off road diesel into it until after the warranty is over. They stated that, if I ever had starting issues or anything dealing with the motor and/or fuel system, John Deere would void the warranty if they saw died fluids in the tank. I would hate to see what they would say and do if they say bio-diesel in the tank.
    My dealer and service manager asked me what I used and told them I used Off Road ,,, They told me no problem , because that is what they was going to recommend if I used on road.. Agree color of fuel is the only difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arlen View Post
    That makes me angry to hear that. There is no difference between off road and on road diesel besides the dye. I also try to avoid bio blends, but check your operator manual, and I bet it says blends up to 5 % bio are OK, and blends up to 20% are OK with a dealer installed kit (which I think might be a fuel heater). I bet there is no mention of OFF road or ON road. Deere usually just lists the specs for the fuel that they require, like cetane and lubricity.
    Your dealer is stuck in the 80's
    I grew up on a farm... We had off road diesel delivered by the thousands of gallons and ran it through all the tractors no problems.

    From Manual
    Sulfur content

    Diesel fuel quality and fuel sulfur content must comply with all existing emissions regulations for the area in which the engine operates.
    Use only ultra low sulfur diesel (ULSD) fuel with a maximum of 0.0015% (15mg/kg) sulfur content.

    IMPORTANT: Avoid injury! Do not mix diesel engine oil or any other type of lubricating oil with diesel fuel.

    Using Bio-Diesel Fuel

    Bio-diesel fuels may be used only if the bio-diesel fuel properties meet the latest edition of ASTM D6751, ASTM D7467, EN14214, or equivalent specification.

    The current maximum allowable bio-diesel concentration is a 5% blend (also known as B5) in petroleum diesel fuel.

    Concentrations up to B20 may be used if machine is modified with genuine John Deere B20 kit. Use of B6-B20 fuel will require maintenance interval changes from some components, and special procedures for fuel handling and machine storage.


    I believe the off road diesel in my area is not Ultra Low sulfur... I believe it is just Low Sulfur. That could be why the dealer said not to use off road until after the warranty runs out.
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    I think all diesel in North America is ULSD, and has been for a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arlen View Post
    I think all diesel in North America is ULSD, and has been for a few years.
    I'll try to get some numbers off my HHO supplier after the winter to see what additives are used in HHO, Off-road and on-road diesel.
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