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    Ballast options for 1023E??

    The 1023E I'm buying used (75 hrs) has FEL and MMM but no ballast. I can't believe he used it without ballast. I asked if he ever got the rear wheels off the ground, answer was yes. Options I've been researching include ballast box (bulky and ugly), suitcase weights, fluid in tires (seems like it would be a real pain if you have to change a tire or tube and not easily removed), wheel weights, etc. I like the suitcase weights (compact and easy to attach/remove/store), and found a set of 6 x 40lbs + hitch bracket nearby for $395. Sounds like it is a Cat 0 implement from a lawn tractor, but I think you can adapt that to a Cat 1 hitch. Trouble is that is only about 275 lbs total and won't accept more weights. Operator manual says 500lbs minimum ballast for the loader, does that sound right? If so, I'd need to add wheel weights or tire fluid to get me into the 400 - 500 lb range. I have also designed on paper a welded metal frame I could build that attaches to the 3PH and is then filled with concrete. I'd need a 24"x15"x15" block of concrete to get it around 500 lbs. Used to have something similar on the front end of a JD 2510 for plowing. Not sure how excited I am about that option either though.

    Thoughts? Suggestions? I'm renting a trailer and making a 300 mile road trip to pick up the tractor tomorrow..
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    I have the full set of wheel weights (1 starter and two wheel weights per wheel) on my 1 series. When I don't need the backhoe but am using the loader I use an Omni Transformer (TRANSFORMER Platform with Integrated Weight Rack - OMNI Mfg LLC) and suitcase weights. It will hold 8 40 lbs weights (320lbs) of weights and weighs 70 lbs. That is still 100 lbs shy of the needed ballast but I also use a receiver weight bracket (OMNI Counter Weight Bracket for suitcase weights! - OMNI Mfg LLC) and more suitcase weights if it is heavy loader work.

    I like the versatility and of the Omni hitch and suitcase weights though I wish I had gotten it set up for 70lb weights so the receiver hitch bracket isn't needed.
    1025r TLB w 60D MMM & Independent Lift
    SN 114287 Built April '13 received 8/21/13
    180 degree thermostat
    Omni Transformer w/ integrated weight bracket
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    Artillian Forks (42")
    Full Compliment of Wheel Weights (340lbs)
    Custom Seat Springs

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    Tire ballast is not counter ballast for the loader. You need weight behind the rear axle to offset the weight on the front end. Adding weight to the tires does nothing to take the weight off the front axle.

    Get a ballast box.
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    Ballast boxes may be ugly, but they sure are effective at what they do best, putting lots of weight behind the rear axle where you need it. Dealers usually have them laying around. You may be able to get a good deal on one. Then you can fill it with something cheap and heavy. This way you don't have a ton of dough in it. You can always get something else down the road.

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    I vote Ballast box aswell. My be ugly, but if you hit a tree with it, its not going to dent. Have a look at the few threads around were people not only have the ballast box function, but have transformed them into tool carriers and storage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psrumors View Post
    I like the versatility and of the Omni hitch and suitcase weights though I wish I had gotten it set up for 70lb weights so the receiver hitch bracket isn't needed.
    I did not see a difference on ordering the Omni Transformer for the different weights. Did I miss something? I have not used any particular ballast on my 1025. I have always used the loader with an implement on the 3 point to help counter the loader some. The Transformer looked very versatile and allows a receiver hitch for moving around my trailers. i ordered one this morning and I was hoping to use 70lb weights on it. I hope I can.
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    My vote is for the ballast box. When removed from the tractor does not take up much space and looks like it is easy to move with artillian's attachment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultrapile View Post
    I did not see a difference on ordering the Omni Transformer for the different weights. Did I miss something? I have not used any particular ballast on my 1025. I have always used the loader with an implement on the 3 point to help counter the loader some. The Transformer looked very versatile and allows a receiver hitch for moving around my trailers. i ordered one this morning and I was hoping to use 70lb weights on it. I hope I can.
    For 70 lb weights OMNI moves the weight bracket higher on the verticle tube. Call them and they'll do it. It use to be free, I assume it still is.
    1025r TLB w 60D MMM & Independent Lift
    SN 114287 Built April '13 received 8/21/13
    180 degree thermostat
    Omni Transformer w/ integrated weight bracket
    Single Point
    Ken's Bolt on hooks
    Artillian Forks (42")
    Full Compliment of Wheel Weights (340lbs)
    Custom Seat Springs

    Kubota 326H 72" deck ZTR

    Stihl MS361, FS250R

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToddM View Post
    Tire ballast is not counter ballast for the loader.

    Get a ballast box.
    Per the owners manual, if the right amount of tire ballast is used, less 3pt ballast is needed.
    1025r TLB w 60D MMM & Independent Lift
    SN 114287 Built April '13 received 8/21/13
    180 degree thermostat
    Omni Transformer w/ integrated weight bracket
    Single Point
    Ken's Bolt on hooks
    Artillian Forks (42")
    Full Compliment of Wheel Weights (340lbs)
    Custom Seat Springs

    Kubota 326H 72" deck ZTR

    Stihl MS361, FS250R

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    i vote ballast box, and set up as tool carrier
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