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    I changed my primary air filter and both Fuel Filters. I have 200 hours and a year on them. Its a 2016 1025. The fuel filters look good but my air filter was pretty dirty. The air filter I will change twice a year. Once at the beginning of spring and once during the middle of summer approximately.
    I probably will change the secondary filter sooner and more often. I can't see what it looks like very good.
    Just thought I'd share some pictures. I like pictures, and I know most of you do to.
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    I go by the red suction device on the filter housing for when to change air filters. It pops red when they get dirty, and you push the button at the top to reset it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chex313 View Post
    I go by the red suction device on the filter housing for when to change air filters. It pops red when they get dirty, and you push the button at the top to reset it.
    As long as you're still physically checking once in awhile. Big trucks have them too and I've checked plenty on services that indicated good to go and pull the air filter anyway and they looked like a 1000 miles of dirt road.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chex313 View Post
    I go by the red suction device on the filter housing for when to change air filters. It pops red when they get dirty, and you push the button at the top to reset it.
    Reminds me of the guy that told his doctor that he couldn't afford the operation. The doctor said, "OK, I'll just touch up the X-rays."

    I know it's a sin, but I've found I don't need anywhere near a new primary air filter annually... However I do change it that often plus blow it out a several times in the summer. New one goes in for snow season and, for some reason, stays clean until I start the summer chores again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HydroHarold View Post
    Reminds me of the guy that told his doctor that he couldn't afford the operation. The doctor said, "OK, I'll just touch up the X-rays."

    I know it's a sin, but I've found I don't need anywhere near a new primary air filter annually... However I do change it that often plus blow it out a several times in the summer. New one goes in for snow season and, for some reason, stays clean until I start the summer chores again.

    I wouldn't recommend blowing out air filters. Compressed air pressure blows holes into the filter material that ruins them. Then will allow dirt to enter the intake. Especially the finer particles that still do damage. I'd also recommend replacing them as a set or pair. New filters will end up being way cheaper than a costly engine overhaul.
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    If it looks dirty it is dirty,change it.If it looks like it needs to be blown out it needs changing.I don't trust the indicator I've seen a filter plugged with a mouse nest and the indicator not tripped.
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    When I worked as an operator for the state they were very strict about air cleaners/filters.

    Do not open the canister and "look" at the filter.
    Do not tap the filter to clean it.
    Do not use compressed air to clean it.

    Any filter maintenance was to be done in the shop by a tech.

    Donaldson seem to ageee with this -

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    Quote Originally Posted by HydroHarold View Post
    Reminds me of the guy that told his doctor that he couldn't afford the operation. The doctor said, "OK, I'll just touch up the X-rays."

    I know it's a sin, but I've found I don't need anywhere near a new primary air filter annually... However I do change it that often plus blow it out a several times in the summer. New one goes in for snow season and, for some reason, stays clean until I start the summer chores again.
    Maybe we start a collection, so you can afford not to do that.

    I do that with my my 30 year old shop vac, not an engine...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chex313 View Post
    I go by the red suction device on the filter housing for when to change air filters. It pops red when they get dirty, and you push the button at the top to reset it.
    Quote Originally Posted by renwickpat View Post
    As long as you're still physically checking once in awhile. Big trucks have them too and I've checked plenty on services that indicated good to go and pull the air filter anyway and they looked like a 1000 miles of dirt road.


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    The indicator should in a vast majority of cases be a good measure of when to change them. Appearance is probably the worst indication. A dirty looking filter is actually more efficient and effective at filtering than a new clean one-the "dirty" one has the larger pores in the filter media filled with dirt and only passes clean air thru the much smaller non plugged holes in the media. As long as the engine is getting enough flow, which the indicator should tell you, leave it there.
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