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    1026r pre fuel pump filter location swap

    the 4 dollar pre fuel pump filter pariffined up early this winter - and what a B!TCH to change in the cold

    I decided to move the filter into the engine compartment by swaping the hoses from the fuel tank to the fuel pump - ie total cost NOTHING

    move the short hose by the tank to the fuel pump inlet and the fuel pump inlet hose to the fuel tank and install the fuel filter in the correct orientation

    now I can clamp the fuel lines and swap the filter and only need to remove the engine side panel - no more draining a fuel tank, my lying on my back and working in an area too small for my hands

    I moved this question form the floppy bucket thread


    Quote Originally Posted by HydroHarold View Post
    I've got a question on moving that PIA in-line filter from it's original location. Last time I was rolling around under there with the same idea in mind, I began to wonder what any water in the line will do without the filter there.

    That filter location is the lowest spot on the fuel line. (Probably why JD's got it there?) Without the extra containment volume of the filter I see water laying right along there in the line and clogging the fuel line much sooner when it does freeze. Far less water amount and far less operating hours between freeze ups/change outs it "looks to me".

    Although it's a perfect place for a filter and especially a water draining filter, it's a bad spot for either to be mounted. But it's the only place on the line to put a water collector. Looks like anything bigger or fancier under would be left hung up on obstacle... I had an old fashioned glass bowl/shutoff in mind for there... But I won't.
    I swapped it after our first storm this year(Albany NY) - filter paraffined up after cleaning the drive way - finished the rest of the winter without an issue - I think this filters main purpose is to filter gunk headed for the fuel pump located on the engine firewall not so much as a water separator like the main unit on the passenger side of the tractor

    this has been working for me but lets here from the experts.
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    I'm still interested in this one so I'm re-asking in the new thread...

    I've got a question on moving that PIA in-line filter from it's original location. Last time I was rolling around under there with the same idea in mind, I began to wonder what any water in the line will do without the filter there.

    That filter location is the lowest spot on the fuel line. (Probably why JD's got it there?) Without the extra containment volume of the filter I see water laying right along there in the line and clogging the fuel line much sooner when it does freeze. Far less water amount and far less operating hours between freeze ups/change outs it "looks to me".

    Although it's a perfect place for a filter and especially a water draining filter, it's a bad spot for either to be mounted. But it's the only place on the line to put a water collector. Looks like anything bigger or fancier under would be left hung up on obstacle... I had an old fashioned glass bowl/shutoff in mind for there... But I won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HydroHarold View Post
    I'm still interested in this one so I'm re-asking in the new thread...

    I've got a question on moving that PIA in-line filter from it's original location. Last time I was rolling around under there with the same idea in mind, I began to wonder what any water in the line will do without the filter there.

    That filter location is the lowest spot on the fuel line. (Probably why JD's got it there?) Without the extra containment volume of the filter I see water laying right along there in the line and clogging the fuel line much sooner when it does freeze. Far less water amount and far less operating hours between freeze ups/change outs it "looks to me".

    Although it's a perfect place for a filter and especially a water draining filter, it's a bad spot for either to be mounted. But it's the only place on the line to put a water collector. Looks like anything bigger or fancier under would be left hung up on obstacle... I had an old fashioned glass bowl/shutoff in mind for there... But I won't.
    I'm thinking of getting a lawnmower shutoff valve to put between tank and the pia filter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HydroHarold View Post
    I'm still interested in this one so I'm re-asking in the new thread...

    I've got a question on moving that PIA in-line filter from it's original location. Last time I was rolling around under there with the same idea in mind, I began to wonder what any water in the line will do without the filter there.

    That filter location is the lowest spot on the fuel line. (Probably why JD's got it there?) Without the extra containment volume of the filter I see water laying right along there in the line and clogging the fuel line much sooner when it does freeze. Far less water amount and far less operating hours between freeze ups/change outs it "looks to me".

    Although it's a perfect place for a filter and especially a water draining filter, it's a bad spot for either to be mounted. But it's the only place on the line to put a water collector. Looks like anything bigger or fancier under would be left hung up on obstacle... I had an old fashioned glass bowl/shutoff in mind for there... But I won't.
    I didn't have any issues thru Jan and feb this year near Albany NY with water freezing - I don't believe this filter is a water catcher - it just protects the electric pump - which then passes the fuel to the traditional fuel filer with glass bowl - the others here should be able to confirm that the big filter separates water before the injection pump

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    Quote Originally Posted by etcallhome View Post
    I'm thinking of getting a lawnmower shutoff valve to put between tank and the pia filter.
    I'm thinking of some type of shutoff valve myself. It would help with future filter changes.
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    This job is on my radar today. Any further updates or reasons not to do the swap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trk View Post
    the 4 dollar pre fuel pump filter pariffined up early this winter - and what a B!TCH to change in the cold

    I decided to move the filter into the engine compartment by swaping the hoses from the fuel tank to the fuel pump - ie total cost NOTHING

    move the short hose by the tank to the fuel pump inlet and the fuel pump inlet hose to the fuel tank and install the fuel filter in the correct orientation

    now I can clamp the fuel lines and swap the filter and only need to remove the engine side panel - no more draining a fuel tank, my lying on my back and working in an area too small for my hands

    I moved this question form the floppy bucket thread




    I swapped it after our first storm this year(Albany NY) - filter paraffined up after cleaning the drive way - finished the rest of the winter without an issue - I think this filters main purpose is to filter gunk headed for the fuel pump located on the engine firewall not so much as a water separator like the main unit on the passenger side of the tractor

    this has been working for me but lets here from the experts.
    Need to know about this before winter sets in. Anybody know why this wouldn't work?

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    Just a comment and a question... If adding an in-line shutoff, I think a properly sized valve would need to be put in place or fuel flow restriction would most likely occur. With that said, has anyone sourced a shut-off the will work in the line? Something that is high quality?
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    Fuel pre-filter relocation.

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    I'm 63+ laying on the cold ground during the winter trying to change that pre-filter while diesel fuel drips on me is NOT my idea of a good time!
    I relocated mine as described by others before me & took pictures to prove it. No issues & made it very easy to change now.
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    Oh this is just great, I just changed my lower filter, yesterday . I totally agree with you . The filter placement seems like a afterthought by JD. This job reminds me of the monkey and the football. I really like diesel running down my sleeve or laying in the 3” spill. There is just no way to make this easy. Until now. I will do this with a valve on each side of the filter before the next change is do.Thank you for sharing. The story of my life , a day late and a dollar short...
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