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    Snow Time: R4 Tires or Turfs?

    As usual, I'm running behind for my winter prep for the tractor. We have had a very late dropping of the leaves and I've been busy with that and other things like pulling a walnut log out of the hollar' (see pic) As I get ready to do my winter prep, I'm wondering which tires might be best for snow duty? I have both R4 and Turf tires mounted on their own wheels and I've only used the R4 in the past. I use my 54" blade most of the time but with a good base on the driveway (over 1000 feet of gravel) and an unusually heavy snow (say six inches or better) I will use the 54" blower. I've got the ballast box loaded nice and heavy so there's plenty of grunt weight on the back and I do not use chains. Anyone have experience with both tires in the snow?
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    From my experiences, on the sub compact size tractors R4s are probably better than R3s. BUT, 2320/2025 and up to old style 2032s, the R3s are far superior for snow. On my 2520 I have both R3s and R4s. The rear r4s are filled and they suck for snow. When I put my non filled R3s on, they will run circles around the R4s.
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    I had R3s (turf) on my old 2320. On the 1026R, I have R4s. I grooved my R4s last winter and what a difference it made! Now, my R4s have 500 hours on them and are 6 years old. If your R4s are newer, they should be good, mine got worse in the snow and ice as time wore on. However, I think the turfs were better overall winter tires. My surfaces are all asphalt and concrete, that can get slippery. We also have MFWD on these 1 series too.
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    There are a few factors to consider. Your luck to have both sets mounted and RTR. If you are speaking of comparing the oem r3 deere supplies on the 1 series and up, then yes they are better loaded or unloaded when compared to the r4.
    Surface area is closer to that of a snow tire with good siping.
    R4s are blocky, which is great for soft surface grip, good cleanout but poor ground contouring on hard surfaces.

    I plow with my 1 series with front bucket or rear 60” blower with no traction issues. My boss and father have larger tractors. Dad can only plow with his r4s using chains, and the boss has rear chains on his r3s, but no rear ballast box when using a loader mounted blade..... so some considerations would be weight / balance in your configuration....


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    I have experience with both but on different tractors (of comparable size and weight) using a ballast box and FEL. Hands down, the turf tires are superior. That has been true for me in heavy snow and ice and on gravel, concrete and asphalt.

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    I run turfs....it’s all I have....never had any real traction issues w a 47” snowblower.
    Rears are filled, mostly asphalt.
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    I would say turf all day long for snow on hard surface.

    There are substantial discussions on this around the web. Prior to buying my 1025, I did a bunch of research and concluded turf out performs other tires for turf and snow. R4 is the jack of all trade tire but not great at any one thing. The ags with full lugs are the best for traction off road and worst on your turf. Slap chains on any of them and they will beat any non-chain tire but will kill your tar.

    My dad has r4's on his kabota and struggles from time to time. It's a much bigger machine too. He had ags on his previous tractor and it also wasn't as good in snow (on asphalt).
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    Keep whatever tires you already have and invest in a set of snow chains instead. They'll work great on either tire type. You won't regret it.
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    Turf Tires

    I will run Turf Tires all the time in Winter, I'm on flat ground no hills. I have a had NO issues pushing / Pulling or blowing SNOW. I have a set of tire chains for when the ICE hits other than that I don't need to put them on at all. I have bigger tractor at the farm with R4 style tires and need to put chains on those tractors all the time.

    Last year we received 11 inches of snow fall in one day I had time to play and put on the front blade rear bad and snow thrower. My best set up for my situation is Rear blade with Front Snow thrower. I had no issues pushing / pulling or blowing that 11 inches of snow last year on that day.
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    Thanks for the replies. I guess I'll give the R3 a try. I'm in the middle of my winter prep and hope to have my little Deere all decked out in it's winter clothes by tomorrow evening. Picked up some LED lights for the rear and hope to have them wired and functional too. We have a 2 to 3 inches predicted by morning and an additional lake effect snow during the day so by late in the day, I'll need to clear some snow. I bought a horse stall mat at TSC and plan to cut a scraper for the blade too. Argh, so much to do but at least it's warm and dry in the garage.
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