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    Hydraulic Options 1025r

    I've scoured through every single hydraulic posting on here and I am just not finding the answer I am trying to find. Then again there is literally thousands of posts under different topics so I could have missed it.

    I have no immediate need for hydraulics but I am always planning guess it is in my nature as an Emergency Manager. I am confused with the options available for the 1025r regarding hydraulics.

    I see the Power Beyond has a quick disconnect that goes on the rear of the tractor. One post I read said that if you break the line for an implement you lose the use of the front end loader. Is this true?

    The third service kit requires the Power Beyond to operate, but if you want to use the independent hydraulic lift you lose a function???

    The rear hydraulic option is not compatible with Power Beyond or Third Service Kit. Do you get another joystick valve like the loader or three independent or what?

    I guess what I am trying to do here is not limit myself to one or the other. I like to have all options available to me at my disposal. So would anyone have recommendations? I have looked at FitRiteHydraulics but his seems more for the 3-Point raising, lowering, and tilting. Am I missing something?

    I guess what I need is a breakdown or diagram of what each is capable of doing and so that I can compare options. If I want it all what do I do, best aftermarket options??? Thanks!
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    I am not up to speed on the current hydraulic options Deere has available. I wish it was easier to research this for each model on their site...

    But i can give you a few general rules of thumb here.


    PB (power beyond) is a loop with a connected QD (quick disconnect) on the back of the tractor. This is used to power a rear hydraulic implement such as a log splitter or a backhoe. It's kept connected to each other when not in use. This completes the continuous flow of fluid needed in a open center system such as the 1 series. As long as there is flow through this loop, it has no effect on the mid SCV/loader.

    It used to be the 3rd SCV kit required the PB kit to operate, but left you without the PB. However I think this has changed. I *think* JD's newer kits allow for both to be installed and used simultaneously.

    Independent lift is just an option by itself. It connects to the loader SCV ports to raise and lower the mower. You can't have the loader hydraulically connected at the same time you want to raise and lower the mower. There is another kit available from Deere commonly know as the electric over hydraulic independent lift that allows the mower hydraulic cylinder to remain permanently connected and operated with a switch installed on the dash. this allows both the mower and loader to be installed and working simultaneously.

    The aftermarket such as Fit Rite Hydraulics makes just about anything you'd want, as long as you can afford it. (Hydraulics ain't cheap....) Brian can outfit you with more than just a single 3rd SCV and PB. He has done at least a 3 spool valve on the rear of a 1 series with a backhoe. The options are endless here. The only real caveat is space. There isn't a lot of area to mount all of these parts and pieces.

    i hope that clears it up a bit.
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    Hydraulics to the back on a 1025r

    Does anyone have pictures of the kit # LVB25837 installed? This is the kit that routes (or re-routes?) the front hydraulics to the back. I assume these plug into the SVC quick couplers, which would mean you would have to dismount the FEL to use, right? Although it doesn't appear to be the perfect solution, it would do in a pinch. Here is a link to an image of said kit on eBay:

    http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Ep8AAO...sA/s-l1600.jpg

    So far, I don't have a particular use for back hydraulic, but hey, good to be prepared just in case, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdy1318 View Post
    Does anyone have pictures of the kit # LVB25837 installed? This is the kit that routes (or re-routes?) the front hydraulics to the back. I assume these plug into the SVC quick couplers, which would mean you would have to dismount the FEL to use, right? Although it doesn't appear to be the perfect solution, it would do in a pinch. Here is a link to an image of said kit on eBay:

    http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Ep8AAO...sA/s-l1600.jpg

    So far, I don't have a particular use for back hydraulic, but hey, good to be prepared just in case, right?
    I have never seen that kit installed, but you are correct in your description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdy1318 View Post
    Does anyone have pictures of the kit # LVB25837 installed? This is the kit that routes (or re-routes?) the front hydraulics to the back. I assume these plug into the SVC quick couplers, which would mean you would have to dismount the FEL to use, right? Although it doesn't appear to be the perfect solution, it would do in a pinch. Here is a link to an image of said kit on eBay:

    http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Ep8AAO...sA/s-l1600.jpg

    So far, I don't have a particular use for back hydraulic, but hey, good to be prepared just in case, right?
    I have never seen this kit installed. From what I understand, the lines to the rear are simply "T" to FEL lines, so, yes, you cannot use both FEL and a rear hydraulic attachment connected at the same time. This kit is also not compatible with the power beyond that is used by the BH. Just not enough space on these small tractors for too many lines!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdy1318 View Post
    Does anyone have pictures of the kit # LVB25837 installed? This is the kit that routes (or re-routes?) the front hydraulics to the back. I assume these plug into the SVC quick couplers, which would mean you would have to dismount the FEL to use, right? Although it doesn't appear to be the perfect solution, it would do in a pinch. Here is a link to an image of said kit on eBay:

    http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Ep8AAO...sA/s-l1600.jpg

    So far, I don't have a particular use for back hydraulic, but hey, good to be prepared just in case, right?
    You might want to consider ST817568 - REAR OUTLET KIT, BUT only if you do not want to install a power beyond kit, can't have both of them. If you can live with that, you don't have sacrifice the loader SCV to have additional rear SCV functions. I can provide pictures of it installed if needed.

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    So if you have the power beyond kit, is there a rear hydraulic kit available since the ones listed above will not work with it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshn3448 View Post
    So if you have the power beyond kit, is there a rear hydraulic kit available since the ones listed above will not work with it?
    If you have power beyond, there is no OEM rear hydraulic kit. Aftermarket.

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    How many do you want? With my system 10 would be the limit. To date, 4 has been the most that I have done on a 1000 series, 3 is very common. The picture shows a 3 valve set. These can be used for about anything that you want to do. You can have it so it is part time connected to the power beyond or it can be set up to be always connected and you use the remotes for any implement that needs a constant flow. Just requires different types of valves for different purposes.

    Comes down to $$$$ and exactly what it is that you want to be able to do.
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    OK, while we're on this subject I have a question or 2. I don't have a PB on my tractor nor do I have a BH. So if I wanted to have the tilt and angle (center link) for the 3PH and also have hyd. for a dump wagon, what would I need to make this happen? Would I need more SCV's to do this and how many ports or whatever you call it would I need? Would it take 4 handles to make all his work? More importantly, can this be done on a 1026/25R? When it comes to hyd., all I know is how to move the levers to make things work or fix what's already there. And what all is needed if I wanted to get a grapple down the road?
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