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    Idle or shutdown

    Hello everyone, recently picked up a 1025. Couldnít find or missed what I was looking for in owners manual. I start my 1025 and load it onto trailer in the morning and set at idle, keep tractor idling between sites for snow clearing and leave idling on trailer when not in use. I know Iím adding hours to my machine, burning fuel, noise pollution etc. but is that more harm than shutting down. Temperature is around -20C or 0F. If itís down for an hour plus will I have trouble starting again?

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    I would have no problem leaving a machine idling as you are doing in those low temperatures.
    I probably even would bump it up a notch over lowest idle setting.
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    If you are keeping the tractor idling while on trailer and moving the trailer around, that means that you have it in neutral, correct? I would think you would want to shut off the tractor so you can leave it in gear. That way it will be less likely to move around on the trailer, even when tied down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WifeSaidOK View Post
    If you are keeping the tractor idling while on trailer and moving the trailer around, that means that you have it in neutral, correct? I would think you would want to shut off the tractor so you can leave it in gear. That way it will be less likely to move around on the trailer, even when tied down.
    Unlike a gear-driven transmission, a HST tractor will drift slowly even while "in gear". Only solution is wheel chocks, parking brake and chains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dombougie View Post
    Hello everyone, recently picked up a 1025. Couldnít find or missed what I was looking for in owners manual. I start my 1025 and load it onto trailer in the morning and set at idle, keep tractor idling between sites for snow clearing and leave idling on trailer when not in use. I know Iím adding hours to my machine, burning fuel, noise pollution etc. but is that more harm than shutting down. Temperature is around -20C or 0F. If itís down for an hour plus will I have trouble starting again?

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    I personally would not leave my tractor run while hauling it down the highway. Maybe just me, but I wouldn't do that!
    Concerning whether you will have trouble re-starting it, nope.
    As long as you allow the glow plugs to cycle, the engine will start.
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    I transport my 1026r around on a trailer to clear my grandparents and parents out. I set the parking breaking and put it in neutral and chain it down and have no problems with start up later on above 15 degrees in the sun. the tractor doesn't move at all with the break and chains . If its really cold out ( around 0 degrees) and the sun isn't up yet ill leave the tractor running but i honestly don't think its really necessary. Its a tougher start up when its that cold out and your drives 50mph ( think wind chill factor) but its for a short amount of time. I also clear my driveway first, so its warm when i transport it. I'd say you're fine to leave it running when its around zero to make it easier on your battery and to keep everything flowing nicely for when you unload.

    I don't know the rules though for leaving equipment running while travailing. There is probably some rule but during snow storms or right after one , the cops around here are more upset lately about guys driving around with plows and their wings on and being about 12 feet wide driving down the road....
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    Quote Originally Posted by neski View Post
    Its a tougher start up when its that cold out and your drives 50mph ( think wind chill factor) but its for a short amount of time.
    Wind chill has no effect on metal and plastic... it only effects human and animal parts. The metal and plastic parts will however cool off faster in the 50MPH wind. :-)
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    Have never thought about it but now that I have...I'd shut it off.
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    Always left in neutral with brake and tied down. Itís about 15 minuites into the city from my place, I could drive the tractor to and from the dozen sites I have once I get there, so trailering isnít bad once Iím in the city.
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    At zero degrees, I would leave it running with the parking BRAKE on and and tranny in neutral. Of course, tied down. My previous 1025R did not like to start well in cold weather and needed help such as a block heater which you would not have available to you once you load up. Diesels do not like cold weather. I would also put cardboard or something similar similar in front of the radiator to help keep it warm. Remember to load it backwards as specified in the manual. In your case, that is even more important. Also note that the tranny needs to be kept warm and it takes longer for it to warm up than it does the engine. You may be adding a few hours and burning a little more fuel, but you are saving a lot of wear and tear on your equipment in the long run.

    Now if you had a TierIV unit where you were faced with regens, I would change my stance on this as excessive idling causes more regens. The 1025R is less than 25HP, therefore does not have to meet the same specs as those above 25HP.

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