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    Question I replaced my fuel filter and

    This may sound dumb, but I replace my fuel filter on my 1025R.
    The tractor was always started easy and ran well.

    When I replace the fuel filter I turn the key and let the fuel fill up the filter and the glow plug went out. The tractor started and stalled. Then I restarted it and it ran just like it always did, fine.

    Now hear the problem. Every time I start the tractor it starts and stalls and runs well on the second start.
    I can't see were I or what I did wrong on replacing the fuel filter. I only use John Deere parts.

    The tractor is one year old and 100 hours. It was just a maintained I do on all my vehicles every year.

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    I'm glad you asked this question as I'm about to change the filters on my 1026R as well. According to the owners manual, you followed the correct procedure post filter change by priming the fuel system. The fuel system is supposed to be self bleeding, but I believe I've heard this is not always the case? Let's see what the experienced folks have to say. My guess is you still have air in the fuel lines somewhere. On older machines you would have to crack a fuel line to bleed out the air so perhaps that may need to take place, but let's see what others that have done this have to say.


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    I replaced my fuel filter and

    Bleeding the injectors shouldn't be needed if the engine has run. I suspect you have an air leak on your filter which allows a bit of air in the system when it's shuts down for a period of time. Recheck your filter for good connections. If it was your separator, make sure it's seated correctly and is tight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselshadow View Post
    Bleeding the injectors shouldn't be needed if the engine has run. I suspect you have an air leak on your filter which allows a bit of air in the system when it's shuts down for a period of time. Recheck your filter for good connections. If it was your separator, make sure it's seated correctly and is tight.
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    Mine did that but when I started it the second time I opened it to WOT and let it run that way for 10 seconds or so and idled down, shut it off and re-started. Everything was fine, never happened after that. Now I never started it a 3rd time to see if it would stall before doing what I did so I can't say that this will solve anything. It's just what I did. It might not have stalled on the 3rd try, I don't know.
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    Two dumb thoughts. Does the fuel filter/ water separator had a fuel shut off on it that was not turned on? Did you do the filter under the floor board and if so did you put the new in the correct way?


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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselshadow View Post
    Bleeding the injectors shouldn't be needed if the engine has run. I suspect you have an air leak on your filter which allows a bit of air in the system when it's shuts down for a period of time. Recheck your filter for good connections. If it was your separator, make sure it's seated correctly and is tight.
    I would think if there was an air leak , when he turns on the key and the fuel pump comes on he would see a fuel leak some place before starting the engine, because you are pressurizing the system.

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    Nice thing about Diesel is that you can very easily smell a fuel leak if for some reason it's difficult to see visually. Maybe start sniffing around?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Red badger View Post
    I would think if there was an air leak , when he turns on the key and the fuel pump comes on he would see a fuel leak some place before starting the engine, because you are pressurizing the system.
    Even though that's what common sense would tell you, it's not always the case. I've seen/had this happen on several vehicles, boats, and tractors. I have an older 12 valve Cummins B5.9 that is kinda known for doing just this. Under a vacuum or lack of pressure, a crack in a rubber fuel line opens up, lets air in and fuel runs back to the tank. Under pressure the fuel lines are fine. Makes it difficult to start, but it runs fine once started. No fuel leaks. Many of the bigger ag tractors also suffer from the same problems. Old rubber fuel lines can do this. So can an improperly seated filter or gasket. It may act just like a check valve.
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    Thanks guys. I will run the tractor longer and at a higher RPM to see what happens.
    When I went to the JD dealer and ask for the fuel filter. They gave me one. The one that go's in the clear glass looking tube with a spring and red rubber O ring at the bottom of the glass.
    There are no leaks, no smell, and runs well after the second start. I can't restart the tractor until Friday night or Sunday. I will let you know what happens.

    I did turn off the fuel petcock when I replace the filter and turn it back on when I was done. I did wait until the fuel glass was full before starting.

    I think running the engine at a higher RPM will do the trick.

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