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    90% of my 1025R tractor use will be for my small Landscaping business. So obviously I want a tire that will do the least amount of damage to the clients lawn. My question is, do turf tires lessen the quality of usage for the Backhoe? Just trying to find the right balance.

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    Haven’t had my TLB long enough to speak to turf tires, but my previous 1025R non-TLB had turf tires and I never had any issues in snow or wet ground. That being said I was nervous about R4’s on my lawn and have had zero issues on lawn. From my experience if you’re moving across wet ground turf tires do just as much damage as R4’s on this sized unit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AJB_89 View Post
    90% of my 1025R tractor use will be for my small Landscaping business. So obviously I want a tire that will do the least amount of damage to the clients lawn. My question is, do turf tires lessen the quality of usage for the Backhoe? Just trying to find the right balance.
    Having a 1025r with R4's, I would say the turf tires would definitely be easier on the lawns, etc. R4's leave quite an in-print on regular lawns, even just driving over it but part of that is the weight of the machine.

    I leave my pallet forks on a pallet and put them on the tractor maybe once a week. I have grooves in the grass from simply driving straight in and getting the forks and backing straight back. That's one of many reasons why i don't use my 1 series to mow......

    As far as the backhoe use goes, I doubt the tire would compromise the use of the backhoe as you are usually excavating from fairly stable ground.....note the term "usually." I don't have a backhoe, but having used on on tractors and other small excavators, I have usually dug my way staying on stable ground. Others may use different approaches.

    One HUGE benefit of the R4's is they are a tougher tire for punctures and if you are often in rocky or stubble type areas, you might have more trouble with tire punctures with the turfs. I just added a liquid sealant to my tires for a small air leak and the sealant also is supposed to plug any punctures as well, I guess we will see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJB_89 View Post
    90% of my 1025R tractor use will be for my small Landscaping business. So obviously I want a tire that will do the least amount of damage to the clients lawn. My question is, do turf tires lessen the quality of usage for the Backhoe? Just trying to find the right balance.
    Answering your question directly - the tires have nothing to do with backhoe operation. When operating the backhoe the weight of the tractor is supported with the outriggers and bucket.

    For your application - if doing all work on and around finished lawns - I think turf tires would be a good fit.
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    I too, have a landscaping biz, I run R3's (turfs) exclusively on my 2520.


    If your landscaping gigs require the heavier R4's, a SCUT/MCUT/CUT isn't the appropriate machine for the job to begin with.
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    IMO Where we live I would never own a 4x4 tractor with Turf tires...

    FIL ordered his MF 1655 years and years ago with turf tires. First evening we came home from work, went out to mow the back yards, slid from the top of the hill to the bottom. Put chains on the tractor and has never had the chains off the tractor (mower ) till he replaced the turfs with R1 tractor tires.


    Go with the R4 ,,, I just used my in a friends yard digging out for a side walk . Made probably 20 trips in front lawn and his back yard taking away the dirt I had removed plus gravel from the driveway. You can't tell I was in his yard.
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    Don't worry about R4's digging up turf. If you search YouTube, you'll find some tests that prove it. I will also agree by personal experience. What R4's will provide VS turf is traction under load. You can bet your hard earned dollar that R4's will perform better than turf on pulling/pushing applications, such as the loader. Backhoe work, doesn't really matter.

    Get R4's. You won't regret it.
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    I agree with the comments on the use of R4's, if you are conscience of them and don't turn and accelerate with them, you'll be fine. Full dis-closer, I don't mow with my tractor, but I have driven over my lawn with R4's many time, and some times over the same spots and never had the any problems with tearing up the lawn. Here is the one of the video's to set you at ease... Also, as stated, using the backhoe, you will be using the stabilizers on the hoe and the bucket when in use, the stabilizers will cause more damage than the R4's will and the tires will not really be in play.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrToFy3DHQM
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    Quote Originally Posted by coaltrain View Post
    Answering your question directly - the tires have nothing to do with backhoe operation. When operating the backhoe the weight of the tractor is supported with the outriggers and bucket.

    For your application - if doing all work on and around finished lawns - I think turf tires would be a good fit.
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    I had turf tires on my X748 when I owned it and I now have R4's on my 1025R. I mowed with my X748 and I mow with my 1025R. Both tires will flatten the grass when you drive over the grass, but then, any tractor with weight will do that.

    Does the R4 tire cause any damage to grass or yard, I have found not. I have found no visible difference in my yard between my X748 and 1025R concerning tire marks in the yard.

    Now, are turf tires designed for grass mowing, yes. So, if you are only going to mow lawn, then turf tires are probably the correct tire.

    Concerning BH usage with a turf tire. It probably doesn't matter with a BH whether you have turf or R4 tires, although, if you are digging a trench and you are moving the BH during the process of digging, you are eventually going to drive over rocks, depending on your soil type.

    I was very glad I had R4's when I dug all of the trenches for utility lines when I built my garage. R4's are a much more rugged tire.
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