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    Transmission oil change

    On a 1025R can you just change the transmission filter without draining all the transmission fluid or do you loose a lot of transmission fluid thru the filter housing when you take it off?
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    Does the manual mention a service with just a filter change?
    Just wondering about why you might want to change the filter but not the hydraulic fluid too.

    Id guess you could do it, and would lose some fluid, but certainly not all of it.
    Even if it would all leak out if left off, if you are quick, you can swap filters fast enough to avoid much loss. No guarantee it wont be messy though.
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    If you insist on changing the filter without changing fluid simply place a CLEAN drain pan under the filter to catch the oil that leaks out. Then pour the oil back in.
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    Be sure before starting to unscrew the old filter that you have a clear path to get it around any interfering tractor parts, and plan how you'll put the old filter down quickly and get the new one into position and threaded correctly. The MMM supports can require a turn or repositioning of the filter on the way out and in. And, the old filter will become slippery as fluid leaks on your hand, and that slipperiness will transfer to the new filter.

    Oh, clean dirt and oil from around the old filter before you start to remove it. You won't have a break to clean up the area after you start unscrewing it.

    Have fun. And be sure the fluid isn't too hot before it starts to run down your arm to your elbow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    If you insist on changing the filter without changing fluid simply place a CLEAN drain pan under the filter to catch the oil that leaks out. Then pour the oil back in.
    It is still likely that you'll have some dirt or other foreign matter dislodge from the bottom side of the tractor and fall into the drain pan. Whenever I re-utilize a drained fluid, I always use a paper funnel filter insert (typically used in auto refinishing to filter paint) when refilling. They are very reasonable at Harbor Freight and they stock two different meshes.
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    Thanks everyone that helps
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    Rule of thumb: If it comes out, it doesn't go back in.


    Hydro fluid is cheap. A pump is not. If a filter is worth replacing, so is the entire fluid.

    Good luck!
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    If the filter's purpose is to catch debris contained in the fluid, I am having trouble trying to determine why one would want to change the filter but not the fluid.........If the fluid has enough "contamination" or "dirt" or whatever one wants to call it to warrant a filter change, it would seem a fluid change would also be advised.

    I suppose you could damage the filter housing in some way perhaps by having an object strike the filter, which in that case, it would be wise to immediately change it so it's function isn't impaired. But I would also be concerned that any type of impact or damage to a filter could cause it to dislodge trapped contaminants, which would lead me back to also wanting all new fluid.

    In any event, I wouldn't consider changing the filter and not the fluid as having met a suggested service interval. The other issue is it's going to be difficult to determine how much fluid is lost in the process and will need to be replaced unless you measure the fluid lost. While hopefully much of the fluid will end up in the drain pan, there will also be some which doesn't. Definitely wear those clear safety goggles which tightly fit your face if you undertake this approach as you have to get under the tractor to be able to see what you are doing and with the filter above the drain plug, you are likely to be wearing some of the fluid by time you are done.

    The way the dipstick works on many of these machines, when refilling the fluid, nothing is showing on the dipstick and all of a sudden, its full. As always, when refilling, proceed slowly to make sure you don't overfill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SulleyBear View Post
    If the filter's purpose is to catch debris contained in the fluid, I am having trouble trying to determine why one would want to change the filter but not the fluid.........If the fluid has enough "contamination" or "dirt" or whatever one wants to call it to warrant a filter change, it would seem a fluid change would also be advised.

    I suppose you could damage the filter housing in some way perhaps by having an object strike the filter, which in that case, it would be wise to immediately change it so it's function isn't impaired. But I would also be concerned that any type of impact or damage to a filter could cause it to dislodge trapped contaminants, which would lead me back to also wanting all new fluid.

    In any event, I wouldn't consider changing the filter and not the fluid as having met a suggested service interval. The other issue is it's going to be difficult to determine how much fluid is lost in the process and will need to be replaced unless you measure the fluid lost. While hopefully much of the fluid will end up in the drain pan, there will also be some which doesn't. Definitely wear those clear safety goggles which tightly fit your face if you undertake this approach as you have to get under the tractor to be able to see what you are doing and with the filter above the drain plug, you are likely to be wearing some of the fluid by time you are done.

    The way the dipstick works on many of these machines, when refilling the fluid, nothing is showing on the dipstick and all of a sudden, its full. As always, when refilling, proceed slowly to make sure you don't overfill.



    That's when those five gallon pails with the hand pump on top come in really handy. One "pump" is roughly equal to half a cup. Very easy to be precise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SulleyBear View Post
    If the filter's purpose is to catch debris contained in the fluid, I am having trouble trying to determine why one would want to change the filter but not the fluid.........If the fluid has enough "contamination" or "dirt" or whatever one wants to call it to warrant a filter change, it would seem a fluid change would also be advised.
    I'm not a hydraulic expert but it seems that changing the hydraulic filter a couple times without changing the fluid is not uncommon. Like you mention above, the filter collects debris from the oil. So naturally the filter will continue to get dirty while the oil will stay perfectly clean. Change the filter and now you have a clean filter and clean oil. The only exception would be if the oil has been subjected to excessive heat which can cause it to degrade.

    A perfect example of this are the new 2-series tractors. They have a 1200 hr (3 year) hydraulic oil change interval but you are still supposed to change the hydraulic filter and suction filter every 400 hrs.
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