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    Leaning towards dumping the 425 for a 1025R

    I have a 425 that I bought (used obviously) when I moved here. I anticipated getting a loader for it for chores around the yard. However, I've come to realize something... by the time I buy the loader, weights, and other things needed to be completely functional, what I have is a 25yr old lawn mower with lots of expensive parts on it, with very limited capabilities. THen I look at all the projects I want to do around the yard and it's just not going to cut it. I need something bigger, and I have been drooling over the 1025R for a year now.

    First I looked on craigslist, facebook marketplace, and some used equipment websites. The going rate for a 1 to 5 year old 1025R is only marginally cheaper than new. These things must depreciate like Jeeps... very little. The dealers are all offering 0% financing, free money. So it would actually be foolish to buy a used one with that kind of deal going. Am I missing anything here?

    So here's what I want in 1025R:
    • Loader w/ bucket
    • 60" MMM
    • R4 tires
    • Pine rake
    • Back blade
    • Snow pusher (eventually anyway)


    I'm guessing the rake, back blade, and pusher aren't something included in 0% financing?

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    I was under the impression everything was under the 0% but can’t say for sure. Take it from a person who couldn’t afford the backhoe....buy the backhoe. That would give you a very capable machine. Good investment over a bunch of attachments for an old tractor and yes used is not worth it unless you have the scratch laying around.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedals2Paddles View Post
    I have a 425 that I bought (used obviously) when I moved here. I anticipated getting a loader for it for chores around the yard. However, I've come to realize something... by the time I buy the loader, weights, and other things needed to be completely functional, what I have is a 25yr old lawn mower with lots of expensive parts on it, with very limited capabilities. THen I look at all the projects I want to do around the yard and it's just not going to cut it. I need something bigger, and I have been drooling over the 1025R for a year now.

    First I looked on craigslist, facebook marketplace, and some used equipment websites. The going rate for a 1 to 5 year old 1025R is only marginally cheaper than new. These things must depreciate like Jeeps... very little. The dealers are all offering 0% financing, free money. So it would actually be foolish to buy a used one with that kind of deal going. Am I missing anything here?

    So here's what I want in 1025R:
    • Loader w/ bucket
    • 60" MMM
    • R4 tires
    • Pine rake
    • Back blade
    • Snow pusher (eventually anyway)


    I'm guessing the rake, back blade, and pusher aren't something included in 0% financing?
    Any Deere/Frontier attachments you buy at the time of purchase of tractor should be included in 0% deal.
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    I went from a pair of 455s to a pair of 1025Rs. I was originally going to buy a used x749. However, like yourself, I found by the time I added everything on to it...assuming I could find it all, I was less than $2000 away from a comparable equipped 1025R.

    You will pay more for the 1025R with the 0% than if you cashed out. I financed one and paid cash for the other. Even with the price difference, the 0% was a good deal. You can roll Frontier implements into the 0%.

    Be sure to upgrade to the 53" bucket for the FEL. Better yet, checkout the 4 in 1 bucket that Frontier just announced.

    If you ever think there is a backhoe in your future, it is far more cost effective to purchase the factory built tractor loader backhoe (FTLB) than to add it on later.

    The R4s are best for dirt work. The R3 turf tires are easier on the lawn and better in snow.

    You'll require rear ballast weight when utilizing the FEL. There are a number of ways to get there, depending on what fits your application and wallet the best. I went with the Heavy Hitch dual row weight bar/receiver and loaded it with 16*42# suitcase weights. It is the most expensive method, but does get the weight aft of the rear axle, which transfers weight from the front axle. The weights can be utilized for front ballast for rear mounted implements that require it, such as a tiller or landscape rake. You can roll the suitcase weights into the 0%, also.
    Last edited by martincom; 09-01-2018 at 07:06 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedals2Paddles View Post
    I'm guessing the rake, back blade, and pusher aren't something included in 0% financing?
    You should have no problem rolling your implements into the 0% financing as long as you buy them at the same time you buy the tractor.
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    Attachments are included in the 0% with the tractor. I was able to get 0% on some used stuff also

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    Got frontier box blade, MMM and brush cutter 0%. Didn't think I needed a backhoe, and I really still don't. But really think it'd be cool. But, with what I've got, I think I can do most all of what I need...cause the one main trench I wanna dig now a strapping 16 yr old son and my bucket with a soon to be purchased toothbar can handle

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    Oh dear. Attachments at 0% too? This could make for a very crowded shed and garage! I had been planning to scour craigslist and such for a back blade, rake, etc. But if they can all just magically appear new with the tractor, perhaps that is the way to go.

    That 4-in-1 bucket... sexy. Does it work just as good as a bucket as the normal bucket does? Basically what I'm getting at is do I lose anything with it (besides money)? I presume it needs some kind of 3rd function control for the jaws?

    I think I would prefer suitcase weights so I can freely move them between the front and back depending on what I'm doing. As opposed to a ballast box. How much weight should I plan for?

    For snow, I'm a little torn between a pusher and a plow. I have a gravel driveway that goes up hill. Quick hitch plow, loader plow, or snow pusher on the loader? Or how is the 4-in-1 with snow?

    The backhoe, I just can't even think of a good excuse to buy it. Other than looking badass.
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    Here is the link to the discussion of the 4 in 1 bucket. It is so new I don't think any one has one yet. So no reviews as to how it functions.

    I'd go (and did) with the dual row weight/receiver from Heavy Hitch. If you load it with all 16*42" suitcase weights, you're pretty much at the lift rating of the 3-point. Personally, I'd go with all 16 as it spares your front axle when doing loader work and the weight is a traction plus moving snow. If you don't want to spend that much, you can start with whatever you want. You can always add more later. Site supporter/administrator Kenny authored a post on rear ballast that includes some charts from JD on the recommended minimums. Here is the link:

    https://www.greentractortalk.com/for...-you-need.html

    The joystick hydraulics have the "float" feature, so you don't have to be concerned about "digging in" as does the 3-point by design. I'd probably prefer a front Quick Hitch mounted plow to a FEL mounted plow. So that would drive the price up somewhat. I've never had either, so I'd seek the wisdom of others in this regard.

    I couldn't think of a good reason to purchase the backhoe, either. However, I was coming to the realization at the age of 60, the #2 shovel and I just don't dance together as well as we once did. The need did find me soon enough when I had to correct yet another error of the septic system installer. It sure made short work of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedals2Paddles View Post
    Oh dear. Attachments at 0% too? This could make for a very crowded shed and garage!
    I failed to include an additional shed in my budgeting for a 1025r - it is being delivered next Friday.

    I went with the quick attach plow because if you mount it to the loader frame you lose left/right hydraulics and in my situation I need to move left/right a lot.

    Then I went to the artillian website and realized I could "have it all!" once I had their fork frame, hydraulic diverter, and quick attach for the plow. Don't go to that website unless you want to throw money around. ;-)
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