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    Advice on front weight specifically for 1025R using spreader, please.

    I am getting ready to spread 2 tons of pelletized lime. I have a 1025R, and will be using a Frontier SS1067B broascast spreader on my imatch hitch. I have removed my FELand the MMM. I have a Heavy Hitch front weight bracket, and I have 8- 42 lb weights available to use. The broadcast spreader holds 670 pounds. My tires are not fluid filled, and do not have wheel weights. I need advice about how much front weight to use.

    To me the confusing part is that I will be starting with around 600 pounds of lime in the hopper, but as I spread the lime, the hopper weight will decrease to zero.

    So, do I use front weights based on the full hopper, the empty hopper, or somewhere in the middle? And how much weight?

    Thanks for any advice, or your own experience.
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    If it were me Iíd load the rack right up. Youíll need it with the hopper full (actually youíd want more, but use what you have) and it wonít hurt anything with an empty hopper.


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    I'd probably rack it up with all your suitcase weights too. If the front end feels light with the hopper full, add more weight, or put your FEL back on.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    Considering a king Kutter XB tiller is like 400lbs you be good with 8 weights on the front.
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    Another way to look at it - if you only have room for 8 weights and it would be inconvenient to have your loader on, and you feel you donít have enough weight, you can always put less than 600# in the hopper. There is nothing saying you have to fill it up. A few more trips maybe but better to be safe.

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    Kind of reading between the lines here, but I get the impression that ideally I need the same amount of added weight in the front as the weight of the spreader and its contents on the back.

    The weight bracket instructions say to remove the loader, so I don't know whether it's possible to run with both loader and the front weight bracket and weights. I suppose I could go to larger weights.

    Maybe I'm overthinking this, but if I put too much weight on the front, and get near the end of the hopper contents, I'd have a situation similar to using a FEL without enough rear ballast.

    It seems that the Frontier SS1067B spreader is overly large for the capabilities of the 1025R. I do understand that I don't need to fill the hopper completely, though. Until now, my spreading per acre of seed and fertilizer has always been in the 2/3 full hopper range. That's why I was wondering how much front weight for a full hopper. The steering feels really light with the 8 weights and less than a full spreader.
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    Doc, Iíll give you an example. With my 580 lb tiller 8 42# weights is simply not enough, thatís why I also have a rack of 70# weights, those do the trick. However, if you are on flat ground a little lighter in the front wouldnít bother me. Yes you can have the OEM bolt on weight bracket on with the FEL, no you cannot have any weights on it.


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    I'd mount up all the suitcase weights you have. If you're headed up a grade with spreader, you'll need all the weight you can get.

    I have the KK poly spreader and no weights. I ALWAYS spread with the loader attached and frequently I'll toss another 300# to 400# (50# bags) of fertilizer in the loader not for weight but to get more spread time before running back to the garage. With the hopper full and no additional bags in the loader, it feels light. Spread the flats before the slopes.
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    I have a similar issue with my 600# Behlen Country tiller hanging off the back of my quick hitch.
    I leave the FEL on and I throw 5 cinder blocks in the bucket.
    Unless you are tight for space I would just leave the FEL on to use the spreader.

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    Doc, Iíll give you an example. With my 580 lb tiller 8 42# weights is simply not enough, thatís why I also have a rack of 70# weights, those do the trick. However, if you are on flat ground a little lighter in the front wouldnít bother me. Yes you can have the OEM bolt on weight bracket on with the FEL, no you cannot have any weights on it.


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    To add on more comparison, if you hang a 600 lb. ballast box on the I-match without anything on the front end, you can steer very easily, if you know what I mean. I would never want to go up too steep of a hill with this situation.

    So, if the front wheels are touching the ground with 600 lbs. on the I match but not really loaded against the ground, any weight that you hang on the Heavy Hitch front weight bar will be added directly to the front wheels plus some leverage since the weights are hanging in front the the front axle.

    So, if you add 8 - 42 lb. suitcase weights to the front weight bar, then you will be loading an additional 336 lb. plus the leverage factor to the front axle.
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