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    1025r Hydraulic System Question


    Hello all.I recently purchased a 1025FILB which I really like, and I think will serve my needs for a long time.
    My question concerns the hydraulic system, Why is it that when using the JD backhoe. I can only move one part at a time. Such as dipper stick then the boom. The bucket curl, but not at the same time as I pull in the boom? It seems the Orange tractors can do two things simultaneously. Why is that? Obviously it is a different type of system, but what are the differences.
    Thanks George

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    Deere 1025R: Single Hydro pump. Total hydraulic system capacity: 6.3 GPM Implement capacity: 3.5 GPM

    Kubota B2601: Dual hydro pumps. Total hydraulic system capacity: 8.2 GPM Implement capacity: ????

    The Kubota equal with it's dual hydro pumps can simply provide more hydro fluid to make the backhoe respond faster.
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    Thanks. So it's just responding faster and not actually doing 2 things at once?
    Guess I just need to get smoother. Practice makes perfect.

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    Well, I don't have a 1025R and have very limited time on a Kubota (my neighbor has one) but even on my machine "doing 2 things at one time" is more a matter of finesse in using the joysticks than "built in system functions".

    If you have enough fluid flowing, you can feather the controls to feed fluid to 2 different functions at the same time and get decent response times. If you only have a little fluid flowing that becomes very hard to do. You'll see a lot of guys on here (GTT) talking about the exact same thing with the lift & curl functions on the loaders. Some machines have enough "oomph" to allow that to happen, some don't.
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    With practice you can do two things at once - but they will move slower when moving together and you need to be very deliberate with the controls in order to balance the flow between the two functions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W9GFO View Post
    With practice you can do two things at once - but they will move slower when moving together and you need to be very deliberate with the controls in order to balance the flow between the two functions.
    This. It definitely takes practice, and you will get better at it once you figure it all out. I have had mine for over 2 years, and use my BH quite heavily, and I am still learning.
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    Thanks for the replies.
    I really love the thing, I must say. Just ordered a thumb from bxpanded.
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    Thy hydraulic guruís on this forum may come by to tell you the specifics as to why itís very difficult for these small machines to effectively do more than one function at once.

    The gist of it is that the way the valves are setup flow seeks the path of least resistance, if you open one to do a function then the limited flow will seek to operate that function and not actuating the other function your calling for quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by balrog006 View Post
    Thy hydraulic guruís on this forum may come by to tell you the specifics as to why itís very difficult for these small machines to effectively do more than one function at once.

    The gist of it is that the way the valves are setup flow seeks the path of least resistance, if you open one to do a function then the limited flow will seek to operate that function and not actuating the other function your calling for quickly.

    Thatís true of any fluid under pressure. Same reason when something leaks it is the path of least resistance.

    Any hydraulic path that has more than one path the least resistance path will seek first. And as they equal the path will be more split. This will occur until one path is less resistance than the other. Keeping the feed of both paths some what equal can be an issue if one wants faster response time.

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    I am certainly not a hydraulic guru. But I feel it has more to do with the Orange one having two pumps. But, What do I know.

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