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    Thoughts on new tractor

    Well I replaced the 1025R I lost in Harvey with the exact same thing, a 1025R FLIB 2018 model with a 54" drive over deck (shout out to Lawson Implement). I just have 2 issues with the new rig.

    First is the new seat on the backhoe. It makes it a real pain in the A$$ to even take the backhoe off and on. If you forget to put the travel pin back in while moving from one spot to another and your boom bleeds down a little you cant just reach your arm back there to bring it back up (now the backhoe seat covers the controls). And if you are on the backhoe, the tractor seat covers the tractor controls. Just a real PITA!! I think I am about to pony up 1500$ (that is how annoyed with it I am) to buy the old style swivel seat and just unbolt the backhoe seat and base and remove it. But that price is crazy!!!! 1500$ for a seat base?!!!! Come on.!!!!!!!!!!!

    Second is the new racing style ROPS. I mean I like the look, but all it does is funnel and direct every single tree branch straight down to the Blinker lights and the operators head!! Its like they want to rip off the light assembly (and I did not take off the light assembly metal protector thingy (not sure what deere calls it, a roll cage?) before the old tractor was taken away). Now before people chime in and tell me to trim my trees, as soon as I can replace 1 of the 5 saws lost in Harvey I will do just that. The tractor is being put to good use to still rebuild my house (yes, I am still rebuilding over a year later). Even so if you are somewhere new to you, you shouldn't have to worry about the ROPS directing branches right towards the lights to rip them off and smack you in the head all at once.

    Other than that it is GREAT!!
    I like the new placement on the power beyond for the backhoe (it is a little tight, bit I like that).
    the new backhoe anti slam feature is helpful.
    the step in the outrigger is great but the grab bar seems misplaced to me.
    hooks to hold up the outriggers when not in use are fantastic.
    I still need to "fix" the RIO, but I haven't looked into it to see how to do it (it is a different switch than the old style) so chime in if you know how to do it.
    My 54" mower deck seems like it isn't as high as the old one but that is probably just adjusting I need to look at.
    Like the quick detach side panels
    The hood latch will probably be a issue (when I picked it up the sales man told me to strap it down cause they have had 3 or 4 fly open during transport). So just need to remember to do that.

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    1025R FILB, 60D deck, 260 Back hoe, H120 loader
    psrumors seat springs
    kens weld on hooks and kens skunkworks proto-type for back hoe cylinder protectors (pics up on my home page).
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    I am not trying to bash the new tractor in any way. I am still very pleased with it on the whole.

    If anyone can direct me to a cheaper place to buy the old swivel seat base let me know because I am serious about that. the ROPS will be fixed when I get a new drill to drill new holes that will keep the ROPS in a straight line like the old ones.
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    1025R FILB, 60D deck, 260 Back hoe, H120 loader
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    kens weld on hooks and kens skunkworks proto-type for back hoe cylinder protectors (pics up on my home page).
    52" Ratchet Rake

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    The only advantage to the dual seat setup is I feel that if you're moving the machine around a lot, it's faster and easier to quickly flip the seats vs having to try and rotate the seat around. I can get to the loader control easily, and the throttle fairly easily, anything near the steering wheel forget it.
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    I'm glad you're able to rebuild and replace.
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    If you load the tractor with it facing the rear then you don’t have to worry about the hood opening up.
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    Also I used a plastic zip tie to fix the rio. It was challenging since it’s unhandy to get at.
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    The two seats is the one thing I wasn't sure I liked on the new 2018 model. I have a 2013 1025R with a swivel seat. Yes, JD had linkage problems with the original swivel linkage which caused some frustration for many users.

    Mine personally broke twice, once under warranty and the second time, I replaced the swivel linkage ends with a much better quality end that I got on McMaster Carr, problem solved.

    I personally like the swivel seat. As long as you keep the swivel lubed with spray lube, it works perfectly. Now, if I had a 2018 tractor, I would just have to get used to it.

    Secondly, having a ROPS on a tractor has it's negative points, although, as we all know, the design and the fact that they are there has all to do with regulation, so we will just have to get used to them, and of course, the number one cause of injury and death in tractor accidents is roll over so I guess the ROPS, with seat belt usage, is actually a good idea, especially if you are use your FEL.

    I would assume one of the reasons JD does not offer an FEL on the X700 series tractors anymore is because they do not have a ROPS.

    My guess is, the redesign on the JD ROPS had something to do with the 2018 recall of SCUT and CUT tractors with folding ROPS retaining pins; the many, many product liability lawsuits that are filed each year concerning ROPS design, and an update of the ASAE Design Standard. Again, we will just have to get used to it.

    John deeres recall due to ROPS folding pin retaining pins
    John Deere Recalls Compact Utility Tractors Due to Risk of Serious Injury or Death | CPSC.gov

    Info concerning a ROPS
    Rollover Protection for Farm Tractor Operators
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray_PA View Post
    Guess my 1026 was made right. 1023 and 1025's are listed but no 1026.
    But then before Feb. 2013 it's all good. Does this mean my tractor is old because it was made back when "things were made right"? That usually means "a long time ago".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levi View Post
    Guess my 1026 was made right. 1023 and 1025's are listed but no 1026.
    But then before Feb. 2013 it's all good. Does this mean my tractor is old because it was made back when "things were made right"? That usually means "a long time ago".
    and that includes us
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    Quote Originally Posted by 12dbsinad View Post
    The only advantage to the dual seat setup is I feel that if you're moving the machine around a lot, it's faster and easier to quickly flip the seats vs having to try and rotate the seat around. I can get to the loader control easily, and the throttle fairly easily, anything near the steering wheel forget it.
    I use the two seat flipping as modern tackle dummies...using one hand tp flip one forward while flopping the other down...
    helps the shoulder and pecs..and strengthens my rotary cuff


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