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    1023E vs. 1025R?

    My local JD dealer says they don't recommend putting a FEL on anything smaller than a 1025R. He's quoted me a 1025R with the JD D160XLV FEL. I've seen 1023E's with a FEL. I know the 1023E is less HP than the 1025R (at slightly less cost - about $1800). I'm also wanting a finishing mower and a box blade. I've got about 5 acres to attend to - nothing extreme - mowing, mulching leaves, moving dirt, mulch, and gravel around. Any strong opinions for one model over the other? Is the 1025R worth the extra cost? Will the 1023E perform okay with the FEL?
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    This thread seems to address your concerns.

    https://www.greentractortalk.com/for...-vs-1025r.html

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    Welcome to GTT. I would think a 1023E would be fine for your applications. 1025R has a couple more HP and some additional creature comforts. I would steer clear of the D120 FEL though. I believe that is the FEL that is not quick remove/attach. The H120 FEL is what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonyPark View Post
    Welcome to GTT. I would think a 1023E would be fine for your applications. 1025R has a couple more HP and some additional creature comforts. I would steer clear of the D120 FEL though. I believe that is the FEL that is not quick remove/attach. The H120 FEL is what you want.
    Iíll second this. The D120 loader is not a quick attach. Get the H120 or the 120R loader and you also want the quick change bucket, not the pin on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesetrain View Post
    Iíll second this. The D120 loader is not a quick attach. Get the H120 or the 120R loader and you also want the quick change bucket, not the pin on.

    Iím curious as to why the dealer recommended not putting a FEL on a 1023e. They use the same loaders as the 1025.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesetrain View Post
    Iíll second this. The D120 loader is not a quick attach. Get the H120 or the 120R loader and you also want the quick change bucket, not the pin on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonyPark View Post
    Welcome to GTT. I would think a 1023E would be fine for your applications. 1025R has a couple more HP and some additional creature comforts. I would steer clear of the D120 FEL though. I believe that is the FEL that is not quick remove/attach. The H120 FEL is what you want.
    The quote I have is for the D160XLV FEL, not the D120 that everyone is advising me to avoid. Does that change anything? I doubt that I would want to take it off much - if ever.

    Also, something I didn't mention is that I need to do a fair amount of leveling with the box blade and I understand the 1025R has 3-point position control and the 1025E does not. My old Ford 8N doesn't have any kind of automatic position control, requiring me to continuously fool with the position level (usually unsuccessfully!). I'm guessing the 1025R's position control ability would be useful to me - if I'm understanding how it works. Maybe someone could clarify that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwing View Post
    My local JD dealer says they don't recommend putting a FEL on anything smaller than a 1025R. He's quoted me a 1025R with the JD D160XLV FEL. I've seen 1023E's with a FEL. I know the 1023E is less HP than the 1025R (at slightly less cost - about $1800). I'm also wanting a finishing mower and a box blade. I've got about 5 acres to attend to - nothing extreme - mowing, mulching leaves, moving dirt, mulch, and gravel around. Any strong opinions for one model over the other? Is the 1025R worth the extra cost? Will the 1023E perform okay with the FEL?
    My dealer flat our refused to sell me a 1023E. He said it was underpowered and I'd be very unhappy with it. Surprised me a bit I have to admit. Not sure if he was being brutally honest about his product line, or trying to upsell me. He upsold me. ;-)

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    I had a 1023E and ran my pto implements just fine (48" tiller and rotary cutter), it comes with the same FEL as the 1025R with the same hydraulic pressure, sounds like for whatever reason he does not want to sell you a 1023.
    Maybe he should be a real salesman and try this approach:
    All things considered for an extra $1800+/- you will get more with the 1025R, several creature comforts like premium seat, tilt steering, cruise control, rubber floor mat, as well as 20% more pto horse power. On top of that you will also get the position control 3 point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwing View Post
    My local JD dealer says they don't recommend putting a FEL on anything smaller than a 1025R. He's quoted me a 1025R with the JD D160XLV FEL. I've seen 1023E's with a FEL. I know the 1023E is less HP than the 1025R (at slightly less cost - about $1800). I'm also wanting a finishing mower and a box blade. I've got about 5 acres to attend to - nothing extreme - mowing, mulching leaves, moving dirt, mulch, and gravel around. Any strong opinions for one model over the other? Is the 1025R worth the extra cost? Will the 1023E perform okay with the FEL?
    Wow... that certainly is a new upsell approach. Someone should let that guy know that the extra 1.5HP of the 1025R isn't going to do diddly for the loader. The neighbor has a 1023e with loader and MMM and he is quite happy with it. It seems to have plenty of power.

    But... having said that, I would look carefully at the differences between the 1023e and 1025R. Unless you are on a very strict budget, most folks find the extra $1800 well worth it for the extra creature comforts, lighting harness, etc. provided with the 1025R - along with the position control that you mentioned.
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