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    Now I'm torn between a new 1023 and a used 1025

    I was quoted 13,427.00 for a new 1023e with a H120 loader cash price, no finance. I'm also looking at a used 1025r with a h120 loader and 260 backhoe 81 hours 15,500.00 With the new one a get a warranty free delivery piece of mind. With the used I take a risk and have to pay someone to get it for me. Also I'm new at this. And if that tractor had something wrong with it I wouldn't be able to tell. Unless it was very obvious. I wouldn't know what to look for. If I get the new 1023e I want to be assured that 15hp at the pto will be enough to run a front "john deere" or a rear "frontier" snow blower. What would you do?

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    The used 1025R with loader and backhoe sounds like a good price. The backhoe, power beyond, and sub-frame kit are pretty expensive when all added together.

    3pt attachments are easier to handle with the 1025R's better 3pt hitch control.

    Do you need a mid-mount mower?
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    I have decided to keep my 178. So I can mow with that.

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    also this one

    I like this one too. This is more my stile. https://maine.craigslist.org/grd/4888962937.html
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    I'm partial to the BH, but thats what I would get.... Isn't the 1025R still covered under its 2 year warranty? Or was it bought at the beginning of 2013?

    I think I'm figuring this right...but you could sell that BH to half the members here(Who need a BH) for a cheap price $4500??? (I don't know what its worth) and end up paying less for the 1025R...Or am I crazy(Don't answer that, its rhetorical)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chex313 View Post
    I'm partial to the BH, but thats what I would get.... Isn't the 1025R still covered under its 2 year warranty? Or was it bought at the beginning of 2013?

    I think I'm figuring this right...but you could sell that BH to half the members here(Who need a BH) for a cheap price $4500??? (I don't know what its worth) and end up paying less for the 1025R...Or am I crazy(Don't answer that, its rhetorical)
    chex,

    The subframe assembly (which strangely enough includes the swivel seat) is non-trivial to take off, and put on another tractor. I bought my 260 backhoe used, and ended up giving up on getting the subframe kit off the original tractor. Also, the kit is different for 1023e vs. 1025r...again, due to the differences in the seat.
    This kit costs $1350-$1550 depending on if purchased with a tractor, or as parts AFTER the tractor purchase.

    The Power-Beyond kit required for the backhoe is also not easy to remove/install, and it is expensive as well.

    So, this makes it more difficult to buy/sell backhoes for the 1-series tractors. ...not impossible, but not trivial.
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    I've got a 1023E with a frontier SB1154 snowblower on the back. I think it works pretty good. Can't imagine the extra horsepower on the 1025 would hurt though. But, either one will get it done.
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    yeah.. that's a tough call.. The back hoe is worth thousands new.. If the 25 and all attachments are clean it sounds like a very solid deal.. If the 25 has tons of hrs on it and the owner can't provide any documents showing maintenance.. You could be walking into a headache.. Any chance you know someone who knows what to look for to tag along?.. I have a 1023 and its all the tractor and more I'll ever need.. I prefer new due to a limited back ground with this kind of equipment so the safe play is that brand new 1023.. But that back hoe is sooooo tempting.. And for only a couple grand more!..
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    Thanks guys. One good point the dealer brought up was. If you have the frontier blower on the back, you also have the loader on front to push snow around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timmarks View Post
    chex,

    The subframe assembly (which strangely enough includes the swivel seat) is non-trivial to take off, and put on another tractor. I bought my 260 backhoe used, and ended up giving up on getting the subframe kit off the original tractor. Also, the kit is different for 1023e vs. 1025r...again, due to the differences in the seat.
    This kit costs $1350-$1550 depending on if purchased with a tractor, or as parts AFTER the tractor purchase.

    The Power-Beyond kit required for the backhoe is also not easy to remove/install, and it is expensive as well.

    So, this makes it more difficult to buy/sell backhoes for the 1-series tractors. ...not impossible, but not trivial.
    Right, but if the OP sold just the BH for just $2000 the [email protected] would be cheaper than the 1023E...and who ever got the BH would still be getting a really great deal. Your right tho... fussing around removing parts can be a PITA.

    and Tim,just for the curious..What did you end up doing when you couldn't get the subframe off ? Might be valuable info for me if I decide to sell my BH and keep the tractor/FEL.
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