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    1025R mowing with filled tires and wheel weights

    I’ve been reading lots about wheel weights and fluid filled tires. I’m looking or some input from folks that have been mowing with both.

    Because I bought a FEL my dealer requires the tires be filled with calcium ( not my favorite) so I have approximately 100lbs in each tire. Mowing a few hilly areas I want to keep the tractor shiny side up I was thinking to add 72lbs wheel weights.

    Dealer said I won’t need them. Anyone have thoughts?

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    I think the wheel weights and filled tires are pretty much good for everything, no down side other than parting ways with sweet sweet cash. No difference in rutting the lawn (usually the front tires causing the issue, at least in my case) and I noticed a real difference in stability with fluid and weights added.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooff360 View Post
    I’ve been reading lots about wheel weights and fluid filled tires. I’m looking or some input from folks that have been mowing with both.

    Because I bought a FEL my dealer requires the tires be filled with calcium ( not my favorite) so I have approximately 100lbs in each tire. Mowing a few hilly areas I want to keep the tractor shiny side up I was thinking to add 72lbs wheel weights.

    Dealer said I won’t need them. Anyone have thoughts?
    The dealer required that the tires be filled with calcium? That's a new one. The manual says that you can use fluid filled tires (not limited to calcium) or you can use wheel weights or a combination of both. But... more importantly... the 120R loader requires the use of 3PH ballast which is usually satisfied with a ballast box. Did the dealer also require that you purchase a ballast box?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooff360 View Post
    Iíve been reading lots about wheel weights and fluid filled tires. Iím looking or some input from folks that have been mowing with both.

    Because I bought a FEL my dealer requires the tires be filled with calcium ( not my favorite) so I have approximately 100lbs in each tire. Mowing a few hilly areas I want to keep the tractor shiny side up I was thinking to add 72lbs wheel weights.

    Dealer said I wonít need them. Anyone have thoughts?
    Did the dealer load your tires for free? If the dealer is making those stipulations i would hope so. I have windshield wash in my tires wheel weights and i find the tractor works best with 450 lbs hanging on the 3 pt.if i don't have a impliment on back. Get the wheel weights. Kent
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    Don't think that the fluid filled tires eliminate the need for proper rear 3 point ballast, especially with the FEL on the machine, as they don't. You need much more weight on the rear of the machine to provide proper ballast. The addition of the rear wheel weights alone won't meet the need for proper ballast when using the FEL.

    I was moving top soil yesterday for a neighbor and even with a 48" box blade on the back of the machine for ballast (which is 350 pounds including the use of the Imatch hitch), the rear of the machine would get light lifting the buckets of top soil. My tractor also has the Mauser cab, which adds 400 pounds to the rear of the machine.

    So make sure you also have either a real ballast box, a rear mounted HEAVY implement, the Heavy Hitch weight bar with suitcase weights or something which will add the proper rear ballast for the machine.

    Personally, I would suggest the Heavy Hitch rear 3 point weight bar so you can easily remove the weight when mowing. I think the weight of the ballast on the 3 point hitch better serves the needs and also is easy to remove.

    Most people don't like to mow lawns with the FEL on the machine due to turning space, etc. Plus, removing the weight from the machine helps cut down the ruts in the lawn when mowing. I would want to be able to remove the ballast when mowing with the FEL removed from the machine. Removing the wheel weights is not an easy or practical option compared to the Heavy Hitch 3 point weight bar and suitcase weights or a ballast box.
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    My rear wheels rip up my lawn pretty badly unless i am very careful. Removing the wheel weights helped. I would not want my tires filled. Standard disclaimer, by lawn is usually quite damp - i do not think i would have the issue on a dry lawn.
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    When people say use a ballast box with a front end loader (FEL) I hope that it is understood by everyone that forks and grapples also require the ballast box!
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    Tires

    Just posting my opinion if you are tearing up the yard with R4s.

    I put HDAPs on before the mowing season and have had zero issues tearing up the lawn even in 2wd up hills. It has been really wet as well so far this year.

    Last fall when I got my 1025 with the R4s, I was constantly spinning out and had to be careful on the smallest incline. HDAPs ride and handle so much better.

    One note, you can try running your rears at 10-12 psi. That will put more tread contact to the ground and maybe cause less slippage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wooff360 View Post
    I’ve been reading lots about wheel weights and fluid filled tires. I’m looking or some input from folks that have been mowing with both.

    Because I bought a FEL my dealer requires the tires be filled with calcium ( not my favorite) so I have approximately 100lbs in each tire. Mowing a few hilly areas I want to keep the tractor shiny side up I was thinking to add 72lbs wheel weights.

    Dealer said I won’t need them. Anyone have thoughts?
    The dealer required that the tires be filled with calcium? That's a new one. The manual says that you can use fluid filled tires (not limited to calcium) or you can use wheel weights or a combination of both. But... more importantly... the 120R loader requires the use of 3PH ballast which is usually satisfied with a ballast box. Did the dealer also require that you purchase a ballast box?


    No they did not require I purchase a ballast box. He said the filled tires would be all I need, I know from reading lots on here that is most likely not the case. I would like to add a heavy hitch but am concerned about shipping cost as I’m in. B.C. Canada. I need to look into that more.

    But dealer also talked me out of buying the wheels weights. My previous mowing experience was on an X300 so I’m not totally comfortable on the 1025R yet. I didn’t feel like I was in a bad situation mowing the other day but want to feel good and stable but not wreck all the grass I’m mowing.

    I will contact dealer today about the 120r specs and ballast questions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooff360 View Post
    No they did not require I purchase a ballast box. He said the filled tires would be all I need, I know from reading lots on here that is most likely not the case. I would like to add a heavy hitch but am concerned about shipping cost as Iím in. B.C. Canada. I need to look into that more.

    But dealer also talked me out of buying the wheels weights. My previous mowing experience was on an X300 so Iím not totally comfortable on the 1025R yet. I didnít feel like I was in a bad situation mowing the other day but want to feel good and stable but not wreck all the grass Iím mowing.

    I will contact dealer today about the 120r specs and ballast questions
    First off, if your dealer is telling you that loaded rears are all you'll need well, he shouldn't be selling tractors.

    Second, if you buy the HH weight bracket, do yourself a HUGE favor and also purchase the hitch/suitcase weight cart. From my experience they should come together, I will get that one day, until then I find myself not using it much because it's a PITA to put the weights on and off every use.
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