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    ZTR fail...1023E to the rescue

    As often happens, I had my Z445 in the back woods of my yard where it had no business being....it's a lawn machine, not an OHV. I ran over a large stick and the Z just lost all hydraulics...no go. As it turned out, the stick jammed underneath and popped the spring off the drive belt tensioner, but I didn't find that out until later. Meantime, the ZTR was stuck and those puppies don't tow well. So, I took my 1023E back there, where it had no business being, to rescue the poor Z. As it turns out...not easy to back that sucker out on a narrow path in the woods on castering wheels...but I did get it out with a minimum of tree scarfing. Got the spring back on the tensioner pulley and back in business. Jeez, this John Deere stuff can take a beating.....

    Ken's hooks did facilitate the rescue...



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    My El Toro Z has a couple of release levers for the hydro, under the seat. Bet it wold follow you like a little puppy with the rear wheels on the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmo2 View Post
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    Yes, fully aware of the bypass. Thank you, though. Wasn't the most efficient option given the nature and location of this recovery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacCool View Post
    As often happens, I had my Z445 in the back woods of my yard where it had no business being....it's a lawn machine, not an OHV. I ran over a large stick and the Z just lost all hydraulics...no go. As it turned out, the stick jammed underneath and popped the spring off the drive belt tensioner, but I didn't find that out until later. Meantime, the ZTR was stuck and those puppies don't tow well.

    So, I took my 1023E back there, where it had no business being, to rescue the poor Z. As it turns out...not easy to back that sucker out on a narrow path in the woods on castering wheels...but I did get it out with a minimum of tree scarfing. Got the spring back on the tensioner pulley and back in business. Jeez, this John Deere stuff can take a beating.....

    Ken's hooks did facilitate the rescue...



    Well, this raises the question as to why you and the yard machines were back in the woods..probably not sight seeing nor mushroom hunting.....Must be a story behind it......You even began with "" As often happens, I had my Z445 in the back woods of my yard where it had no business being....it's a lawn machine, not an OHV."" Yet it sounds like the z445 is no stranger to the back woods.


    Nice rich looking soil where the recovery took place. Just curious, prior to adding the 1025r, what would the rescue plan have looked like?

    Might be the time to replace the Hydro belt as the spring tensioner coming loose likely meant serious belt slippage of the hydro drive belt, which is never a good thing...........those belts tend to depend of proper face angles to run as intended and designed. Better to replace the belt now verses a week or two from now when it fails and as you know, when the hydro belt breaks, you go nowhere in a hurry.....

    Looks like the z445 with the 54" deck weighs 680 pounds where the z445 with the 48" deck weighs 665 pounds. Didn't even look to put much of a load on the 1025r and I noticed there is no extra rear ballast on your tractor, other than the I Match which is roughly 75 pounds. Of course, you aren't completely lifting the Z445 off the ground, but you are lifting the heaviest portion of the machine......

    Those KBOH sure are handy and you just never know when you will need them. They make the rescue safer and easier. Nice job on the rescue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SulleyBear View Post
    Well, this raises the question as to why you and the yard machines were back in the woods..probably not sight seeing nor mushroom hunting.....Must be a story behind it......You even began with "" As often happens, I had my Z445 in the back woods of my yard where it had no business being.[/COLOR]...it's a lawn machine, not an OHV."" Yet it sounds like the z445 is no stranger to the back woods.


    Nice rich looking soil where the recovery took place. Just curious, prior to adding the 1025r, what would the rescue plan have looked like?

    Might be the time to replace the Hydro belt as the spring tensioner coming loose likely meant serious belt slippage of the hydro drive belt, which is never a good thing...........those belts tend to depend of proper face angles to run as intended and designed. Better to replace the belt now verses a week or two from now when it fails and as you know, when the hydro belt breaks, you go nowhere in a hurry.....

    Looks like the z445 with the 54" deck weighs 680 pounds where the z445 with the 48" deck weighs 665 pounds. Didn't even look to put much of a load on the 1025r and I noticed there is no extra rear ballast on your tractor, other than the I Match which is roughly 75 pounds. Of course, you aren't completely lifting the Z445 off the ground, but you are lifting the heaviest portion of the machine......

    Those KBOH sure are handy and you just never know when you will need them. They make the rescue safer and easier. Nice job on the rescue.

    I've had that Z445 a long time. I use it to mow the lawn of course, and it does a great job of that, but I also have a bunch of paths through the wood and I use it to keep the brush and little trash trees down. I go through about 3 sets of blades every year. My granddaughter and I go hiking and "exploring" back there all the time, and the main part of that little trail network is a little deer highway - they traipse that route in droves every night, along with foxes and raccoons and other critters. She and I have a game camera set up and we review the week's footage every weekend.

    Good tip on the hydrostatic drive belt, but it ain't my first rodeo.... I have two drive belts and a tensioner spring hanging on the pegboard in the garage, along with a mower deck belt, and a snowblower dive belt for the AWS277 that handles winter duty while the ZTR is hibernating on a battery tender. Minnesota is all about boats and rolling stock. I can't explain why I haven't had a tractor of any kind up to this point. Seems really odd now, looking back.

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    Well, cheaper than renting a helicopter I guess.
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    Same kind of thing happened to me - my 915B died the middle of the street. My rescue wasn't as dramatic as yours, and didn't have nearly the level of photographic appeal(I'm jealous!), but it sure was nice to have an alternative to muscling it back to safety. I looped a tow strap around the caster arms.

    And yes - towing something with casters holds it's own surprises. The "B" almost ended up in the ditch. The short turning radius on the 1025 compensated for the brain cells that were apparently taking a coffee break...
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