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    Attached is the online manual for a 1023E/1025R. Notice the copyright of 2019.

    It calls for a 200 hour and/or annual oil and filter change.

    My tractor is a 2018, so is this applicable to mine? Personally I don't care, because mine gets dirty enough with the hours I put it, so I change it annually anyways.

    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marlinguidegun View Post
    I’m sure you are right, but I was once advised by an old engineer I used to work with (I’m a mechanical engineer myself) that oil completes its refinement in the engine and frequently changing it builds wax deposits in the engine. He recommended against the practice. He cut his teeth as a B-17 mechanic during the war, so I’m sure the advice is outdated, but I thought it was interesting anyways.


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    Lubricating oils are the subject of more self-propagating myths and wives' tales than any segment of the manufacturing industry that I can think of. Those "old engineers" sure do get around.

    Even if one believed that paraffin management in crude oils was still an issue given today's modern refining techniques (it isn't), one could always use synthetic oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdforever View Post
    Attached is the online manual for a 1023E/1025R. Notice the copyright of 2019.

    It calls for a 200 hour and/or annual oil and filter change.

    My tractor is a 2018, so is this applicable to mine? Personally I don't care, because mine gets dirty enough with the hours I put it, so I change it annually anyways.
    It's been said before but it is worth repeating. JD and most other tractor manufacturers do not recognize model year of the tractor the same way the automobile industry does. They go by serial number range. Sometime a new year just happens to have a new serial number range, sometimes not.

    If you look at the operator's manual versions listed below you see that at times they tried to list model years along with the S/N but then with the next version they are back to only listing the serial number. For some reason the 1-series manuals seem to be more inconsistent compared to other models.

    Serial number trumps model year. It is what is important when ordering parts.
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    Take a baby aspirin a day and you likely will never feel the effect nor will it seem any different than the person who doesn't take a baby aspirin a day. And then one day, the person who doesn't take the baby aspirin has a stroke, a heart attack or a pulmonary edema. Studies have found being proactive on such matters certainly don't hurt anything and in fact, could be beneficial.

    So, I change my tractor engine oil every 100 hours and my hydro fluid every 200 hours, after the first change at 50 hours, then 200 hours and then every 200 from now on. Same with my zero turn.

    Run premium fluids, use high quality filters. Can it hurt anything? No. Is it likely to help? Compared to the guys who don't change them on time, almost certainly.

    You go to look at two machines which are for sale, Tractors are same make, same model, same years, even similar hours. Asking price is the same. These are owned by owner A and owner B.

    Owner A - Is a GTT member and he changes the oil in his tractor every 100 hours engine, every 200 hydro. His machine use is such that he is changing the oil twice a year or more. He maintains a written service log for the machine. He uses Premium Diesel Synthetic Oil with an additive and a good filter. He runs Low viscosity fluid with an additive for improved lubricity. Machine has always run premium diesel with fuel treatments. The machine has 400 hours on it. Owner has the Technical service manual and it goes with the machine.

    Owner B - Isn't a GTT member and belongs to Scut/THC where the primary discussion is THC levels in hemp and sometimes tractors. But its not the SCUTS which interests most on the site. He isn't sure when he changed the oil last, but he had the kid down the street do it. Seems like it wasn't that long ago. Completely unaware of what oil was used, or if the hydro fluid was Low Viscosity. All he knows is it cost him 2 cases of beer and 2 oz of his best closet grown product. He really liked that product and next time, he is going to negotiate better, if he remembers to......His machine has 400 (ish) hours on it. He runs whatever fuel is cheapest. Thinks there might have been a manual of some type somewhere, at some time, but not sure where it is.

    Both are the same asking price.......

    And before I ask which machine you would buy, no, the Owner B isn't throwing any of his home grown product in with the deal........ Owner B did indicate he would prefer all cash as he doesn't want to have to involve a bank in the deal or any paperwork, man...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdforever View Post
    Attached is the online manual for a 1023E/1025R. Notice the copyright of 2019.

    It calls for a 200 hour and/or annual oil and filter change.

    My tractor is a 2018, so is this applicable to mine? Personally I don't care, because mine gets dirty enough with the hours I put it, so I change it annually anyways.

    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SulleyBear View Post
    And before I ask which machine you would buy, no, the Owner B isn't throwing any of his home grown product in with the deal........ Owner B did indicate he would prefer all cash as he doesn't want to have to involve a bank in the deal or any paperwork, man...........
    But I doubt that the owner would tell you ANY of those background details about Tractor-B. Likely when you roll up some dude with beads will greet you, point to the tractor sitting next to the flowers, and in his best Tommy Chong voice will say "Over there is the tractor man, let me know if you want it. If not, that's cool". :-)
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    I called my dealer today. The service guy said to change the oil and filter on engine around the 50hr mark. He said not to worry about hydro oil until the 200 hr mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SulleyBear View Post
    Take a baby aspirin a day and you likely will never feel the effect nor will it seem any different than the person who doesn't take a baby aspirin a day. And then one day, the person who doesn't take the baby aspirin has a stroke, a heart attack or a pulmonary edema. Studies have found being proactive on such matters certainly don't hurt anything and in fact, could be beneficial.
    The American Heart Association doesn't recommend daily aspirin for the proactive prevention of heart attack or stroke. If you're currently taking a daily aspirin, make sure you ask your Family Practitioner or cardiologist about whether or not you should still be doing so.

    Avoid daily aspirin unless your doctor prescribes it, new guidelines advise | American Heart Association

    Aspirin and Heart Disease | American Heart Association




    Just sayin'. Otherwise yeah...you should do what your doctor (or your tractor manufacturer) recommends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikdor View Post
    I called my dealer today. The service guy said to change the oil and filter on engine around the 50hr mark. He said not to worry about hydro oil until the 200 hr mark.
    I would ask your dealer why not to worry about the hydro oil until 200 hours! It's your machine, not his!

    It sure wouldn't hurt to change it now! I know it sure would make me feel better if it was mine. As for the engine oil, IMO, it should be an annual thing regardless of hours!
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    Hope I get this right...One baby aspirin in my tractor annually, change my oil after 50/200/400 hours to help prevent heart disease...

    I love reading the change oil threads...
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