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    How many have waited to change there fluids at 200hrs? Any issues?

    I have a 2017 1023e that has 65hrs on it. I have been reading about the 200hr engine oil and hydro oil changes on this forum and I'm totally confused about when I want to do it. All different answers so I'm curious how many have gone by the manual and waited to hit the 200 hrs before servicing? Has anyone encountered any issues waiting? I know that suction screen on some tractors has had gasket material and some other debris on it so I feel it's doing it's job. The manual doesn't say anything about an annual service for oil and hydro either. Is moisture in fluids a concern if it takes a couple of years to hit 200 hr mark? I mow in the summer and snow blow in the winter. I'll probably be even more confused after this.LOL
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    That is very odd. I have never seen an owner’s manual for a SCUT/CUT that did not specify an annual engine oil/filter change IF less than 200 hrs per year.

    The manuals have never specified an annual hydraulic fluid change. There is sometimes an initial 50 hr fluid/screen/filter change and then it is usually simply hours-based after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikdor View Post
    I have a 2017 1023e that has 65hrs on it.
    What is the S/N of your “2017” 1023e?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    what is the s/n of your “2017” 1023e?
    1lV1023EKHJ109242
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    The annual engine oil and filter change requirement disappeared for a while then showed back up in manuals printed in 2019. It is not in my manual. Make of that as you will, but I changed my engine oil at 65 hours and it was very black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikdor View Post
    1lV1023EKHJ109242
    Thanks. Yours is a "HJ" serial, which should be this on-line manual. As some have commented, JD has been a little inconsistent with some of their manuals. Things tend to disappear and then reappear. Obviously, since I don't own multiple machines my manual access is limited to the on-line versions which can change and be updated without notice.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmylh View Post
    The annual engine oil and filter change requirement disappeared for a while then showed back up in manuals printed in 2019. It is not in my manual. Make of that as you will, but I changed my engine oil at 65 hours and it was very black.
    Diesel engines seem to blacken the oil right away. I don't mow with my tractor and most of its use is during the winter so the hours are very low. By low I mean it is now going on 7 years old and only has 150 hrs. But I still do an engine oil/filter change annually. What I find odd on my 2720 is the oil will be so clear on the dip stick that it is hard to see the level. This usually has me thinking that doing an oil change is a waste of oil. BUT... when I drain it, it comes out dark.

    Weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    Diesel engines seem to blacken the oil right away. I don't mow with my tractor and most of its use is during the winter so the hours are very low. By low I mean it is now going on 7 years old and only has 150 hrs. But I still do an engine oil/filter change annually. What I find odd on my 2720 is the oil will be so clear on the dip stick that it is hard to see the level. This usually has me thinking that doing an oil change is a waste of oil. BUT... when I drain it, it comes out dark.

    Weird.
    Same experience here with my annual oil changes with 40-50 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    That is very odd. I have never seen an owner’s manual for a SCUT/CUT that did not specify an annual engine oil/filter change IF less than 200 hrs per year.

    The manuals have never specified an annual hydraulic fluid change. There is sometimes an initial 50 hr fluid/screen/filter change and then it is usually simply hours-based after that.
    As was discussed earlier in another thread, the SCUT manual that came with my 2019 1023E, Issue J8, doesn't call for an annual oil/filter change. Apparently John Deere re-thought the recommendation (or caught a typo) and the same manual later in the model/year does call for annual oil change. Otherwise 200 hours for oil change, 200 hours for transmission. I'm at 67 hours on my tractor, will change the oil/filter sometime this fall mainly because I want a lower-viscosity synthetic in there for winter operation. Generally, annual oil change is recommended so that acidic combustion products don't sit around in the crankcase over periods of inactivity. I change the oil filter in my boats at the end of the season for that reason. Truthfully, I doubt that it makes any practical difference, likewise annual oil changes in my tractor. OTOH, more frequent oil changes, while probably unnecessary, are not harmful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacCool View Post
    OTOH, more frequent oil changes, while probably unnecessary, are not harmful.
    I’m sure you are right, but I was once advised by an old engineer I used to work with (I’m a mechanical engineer myself) that oil completes its refinement in the engine and frequently changing it builds wax deposits in the engine. He recommended against the practice. He cut his teeth as a B-17 mechanic during the war, so I’m sure the advice is outdated, but I thought it was interesting anyways.


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