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    Front Ballast needed for backhoe use with FEL removed

    I need to get into some rather tight places in the woods to dig holes for some balled and burlapped evergreens I am planting along my road frontage. With the FEL on it is close to impossible to access some of the areas I need to get to. My plan is to take the FEL off so I have more comfortable margins of error moving around the trees I need to get passed. Do I need to put on the extension for a second row of suitcase weights or should 7 42lbs suitcase weights do the job?
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    I've never used a backhoe without a FEL bucket lowered to the ground and lifting the front wheels of the tractor.

    You might be able to do this, but I believe that your digging capacity may be reduced.

    Maybe just take off the bucket and then put some dunnage under the FEL so that you can still lower it and lift the front.

    If you have something like a pallet fork frame that would be good to have on when you set the loader frame down.
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    Can you take the bucket off and the the FEL frame on? That's probably enough weight to get you started, maybe find a good size log to load across the arms? Just spit-balling.
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    I'd think your 7 are fine if on relativly flat ground....besides wheelies are kinda fun.

    On my 955 I've run a long piece of all thread through the mounted weights and hung a couple more on each side outside the standard weight bracket. Anything would work to hang them , then run a strap around the whole mess to keep them from rattling. Be easy on the digging with no loader as it will likely try to tweek your outriggers.
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    I think you'll need more weight if you doing any digging. The front end loader assembly is close to 600 lbs, your 7 weights is 300.

    I've messed up and put the backhoe on before the front end loader, and it's hard to even drive on level ground to where the loader is to mount it without pulling a wheelie.
    After that experience, even with a couple of hundred lbs on the front, I wouldn't even try to dig....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tquarles View Post
    I think you'll need more weight if you doing any digging. The front end loader assembly is close to 600 lbs, your 7 weights is 300.

    I've messed up and put the backhoe on before the front end loader, and it's hard to even drive on level ground to where the loader is to mount it without pulling a wheelie.
    After that experience, even with a couple of hundred lbs on the front, I wouldn't even try to dig....
    Thanks for the first hand experience. I think I am going to take a couple sections of fence down and cut down a few small trees to give myself better access. No reason to risk damaging something or hurting myself.
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    The front end loader is listed as “required equipment” in the backhoe user manual and has a caution specifically stating not to operate the backhoe without the FEL installed.
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    I fill the bucket with dirt from the woods and then lower the bucket to the ground after positioning the rig and then position back hoe
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    I wouldn't try using the bh without the fel.

    A couple of times while using mine I had to use mine with fel bucket up in the air. Just didn't feel safe plus digging force wasn't up to par. If I hadn't been setting on level I wouldn't have tried. Plus I only needed to dig maybe 2-4' of dirt out of the hole.
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    The Heavy Hitch front bracket will hold eight 70 lb suitcase weighs. Not sure if that would be enough though.
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