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    1026r FEL curl action

    Hi experts!

    Ran my 1026r FEL for 4 hours yesterday removing about 10" deep of soil for a large brick patio. This was the most FEL work since I got the tractor and only have 13 hours on it.

    My limited experience question; when I dump the bucket of removed dirt and then move a bit forward, drop the bucket edge down to drag the dirt pile back and smooth the soil, the bucket does not stay in position. It rotates up and is not locked in the curl position. The only way it seems to work is to put the FEL lift hyd. lever all the forward in the recycle mode and drag that back, yet the bucket still rotates quite a bit. The bucket curl acts like it is on a spring versus hydraulic pressure.

    Is this expected behavior or should the hydraulics lock the curl in the desired position?

    All in all it was a good day and enjoyed the power of this amazing machine.

    Leo

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    We call that "Floppy Bucket Syndrome." Unfortunately it's a normal thing for these smaller tractors. Here's some good reading on the regen portion of the curl circuit.
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    FEL Curl action comment

    my 1026r with the FEL has an issue that my local dealer says JD knows about and is working on it. The issue is much more noticable when i have the pallet fork attachement on, but when i pull the SCV to me slightly, which is "feathering curl up", the forks will drop slowly. Then if i pull the SCV lever more closer to me it will finally pick up. What is happening is there is a spot in the valving that allows fluid to flow in reverse on the curl up side right before the valving takes over and it starts to lift.
    I also have built a 10ft gin pole attachment for the FEL and when you have 10ft of pole sticking out there with some weight on it the problem is magnified greatly. There is one way i have been able to combat the problem and that is to swap the curl hydraulic hoses so "curl up" is down and "curl down" is up. That configuration does allow me to "feather curl" up but its sometimes confusing when running.
    any other advise on this would be appriciated. Slade

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    First, Welcome Slade


    There are 2 "problems" we have been seeing on the H120 FEL, what have been called the "floppy bucket" and the "droopy bucket". As Dieselshadow (Jason) posted, the floppy bucket is on a back drag action where the bucket won't hold tight. I believe there is a DTAC on this, but it seem common on the smaller FEL's.

    Your problem of the bucket dropping on a slight curl has been reported to JD and "they are looking for a solution". I have the same issue on mine as well as others. You can read more here: http://www.greentractortalk.com/foru...nd-loader.html

    The last thing my dealer told me was that his factory rep told him that JD is still looking for a solution. I personally believe it is a joystick SCV issue, and your switching hoses solution probably confirms this. We're all being patient ona JD solution.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    FWIW, right after I received my 1026 I complained and demod the problem to my service department. They simply replaced the SCV and I have not had the droop since...

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    I've learned to work with the "Floppy Bucket". I can't say exactly what happens, but it seems as if it is floppy and I just curl in both directions a little it works fine. If it is integral to the design I can live with it.

    As far as the droopy bucket, JD called me after my loader survey was received and told me when I take into the dealer to quote DTAC 35065 to have them deal with that issue. This senario I will get fixed because of the safety implecations.
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    Is thier an easy way to duplicate this problem to show to the dealer? I'm taking mine in to the dealer to have the park stand changed and hood reinforcement bracket put on. Would like to show them while it is they have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brians1026R View Post
    Is thier an easy way to duplicate this problem to show to the dealer? I'm taking mine in to the dealer to have the park stand changed and hood reinforcement bracket put on. Would like to show them while it is they have it.
    Brian,

    I'd put the bucket in the dump position, lower it to the ground and then back-drag the bucket. That should demonstrate that the bucket will not remain in the fully dumped position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamski View Post
    Brian,

    I'd put the bucket in the dump position, lower it to the ground and then back-drag the bucket. That should demonstrate that the bucket will not remain in the fully dumped position.
    I'll give that a try. When I was removing snow, I did that to scrape the drive and it did not give. I'll try it on dirt tomorrow.
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