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    Unhappy Smoke pouring out of my 1023e

    I am not having a good two weeks.

    Last week it was my battery that failed and had to be replaced. That wasted one Saturday.

    Now today while bushhogging my tractor started pouring out thick black then white smoke out of the exhaust. It was so bad I tried to turn of the engine and this really freaked me out - when I tried to turn the engine off using the key it did not stop. It kept running and pouring smoke for about a minute before it stopped.

    This is a two year old unit with not even 35 hours on it and I am really frustrated. I will be calling Ag Pro first thing on Monday but any input is welcome.

    Here is a link to a quick video - https://www.dropbox.com/s/psrks8w6n4...35.30.mov?dl=0

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    Smoke pouring out of my 1023e

    Do not attempt to run the tractor again until this has been properly diagnosed! You could have a failed injector or injector pump which can allow the engine to "run away" as in have zero control. It can run on its own by ingesting uncontrolled fuel or even more common in diesels is an internal oil leak. They will run uncontrollably and eventually raise the rpm as the fuel (diesel or oil) leak gets worse to the point the engine fails.

    I'm sorry you've got this issue. I hope it's easily found and repaired as this is a fairly rare issue with any modern diesel engine.
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    Smoke pouring out of my 1023e

    Quote Originally Posted by dieselshadow View Post
    Do not attempt to run the tractor again until this has been properly diagnosed!
    This!

    It could be an failed injection pump too, it wouldn't the time we've heard of this-although a different issue: http://www.greentractortalk.com/foru...id-1023-a.html

    Particularly post #43 where he wrote that JD replaced the failed IP even out of warranty, his unit had 275 hours on it.
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    I have been around equipment my entire life and never wittinessed this, I've only heard about it and seen videos on YouTube of a "run away" diesel. One thing I am certain of though, I applaud you for thinking to shoot a video during this. I don't think I would have thought of anything at all other than standing there with a thought of "oh sh*t"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by alicat418 View Post
    I am not having a good two weeks.

    Last week it was my battery that failed and had to be replaced. That wasted one Saturday.

    Now today while bushhogging my tractor started pouring out thick black then white smoke out of the exhaust. It was so bad I tried to turn of the engine and this really freaked me out - when I tried to turn the engine off using the key it did not stop. It kept running and pouring smoke for about a minute before it stopped.

    This is a two year old unit with not even 35 hours on it and I am really frustrated. I will be calling Ag Pro first thing on Monday but any input is welcome.

    Here is a link to a quick video - https://www.dropbox.com/s/psrks8w6n4...35.30.mov?dl=0
    If you wouldn't mind, please post the serial number of your tractor. I noticed in the parts manual for Deere they show two different part numbers based upon a change in the pumps for units after production number 310001.

    John Deere part number MIA881669 for tractors up to *********310000

    John Deere part number MIA882413 for tractors built ******310001 and after......

    Just FYI, the John Deere part number is MIA882418 for the 1025r units........

    Not that the Injection pump has been confirmed as the problem, but I would like to confirm the serial number of these machines which are having problems. I am going to send member 2Lteacher a Private Message and ask him about his tractors vehicle I.D. number which Deere stepped up and helped repair even with 275 hours on the unit. Hopefully, he will respond. I also asked him to update his original thread or post on this thread about the final outcome of his dealings with Deere and I also inquired how his tractor has been running since the repair.

    Maybe it's nothing and merely a coincidence, but it would be nice to know of the units having trouble are in the pump part number which has been replaced with a new part number. It seems odd that these 1023e units, which are produced in far lower volume than the 1025r, are having these issues. Perhaps I just haven't seen the threads on any failure issues of injector pumps on the 1025r tractors.

    I know that based upon production numbers I found on a Deere website, it seemed like the 1025R were produced at a rate of 20 or 25 tractors (or perhaps even higher) for every 1 model 1023e produced. I am trying to nail down the actual numbers.

    In the PM I sent the poster on the thread which Kenny linked from 2LTeacher, I asked him to post an update to either his original thread or this one about how his tractor is running and how Deere ended up handling his specific situation. If there is a pump issue, it would be helpful for alicat418, the OP of this thread to know as much as possible when he has to deal with his dealer.

    It is worth a shot...
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    I've seen a few injector failures that were very similar to what happened to your tractor, but the IP is also a very strong possibility.

    Can't stress enough how right everyone is, definitely do not start it again.
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    Could be a fuel injection problem. Bad pump or nozzle are likely culprits. Before doing anything else remove the fuel fill cap and take a whiff. If you smell gasoline there's your problem. Drain the tank and filters and refill with fresh, verified diesel. Add a triple shot of a good quality fuel system lubricant like this: Diesel Fuel Lube ? Best Price on Opti-Lube Additives
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    Hiya,

    As others have said, get it to the dealer and let them deal with it as it's 2 years old and should be under the powertrain warranty.

    As far as a runaway Diesel, there are basically 2 types, Diesel or "other" fueled.

    Diesel fueled are ones where the fuel is supplied by the injector pump and the key switch or mechanical fuel shut off does not have an effect, The easiest way to stop one of these is to cut or crimp off the fuel line from the tank and stop the flow of fuel to the pump starving the engine of fuel.

    "Other fueled" runaways can be internal (blowby gasses, oil seal on a turbocharger/supercharger shaft) or externally fueled, (Natural gas, gasoline vapors, methane plumes at landfills for examples) External fueled are the most unpredictable as they are independent of mechanical state of the engine. The only way to quickly stop an "other fueled" runaway is to mechanically stop the flow of air into the engine with either a plugging object on the intake or by directing a CO2 or Halon fire extinguisher into the air intake starving the engine of oxygen, stopping the fuel from burning. Do not use your hand or a rag to plug the intake, as either can get sucked into the engine with bad results. If the engine is connected to a gear transmission, putting it in the highest gear and stomping the brakes can shut it down, that's what my brother did with a Detroit in a Chevy Titan cab-over years ago when the seals in the supercharger went and fueled the engine with oil.
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    I would pull the dipstick and check the oil level. Also have a look at the air filter. I wouldn't do much else. Let the dealer dig deeper.

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