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    Ballast Box weight recommendations?

    I have a front end loader and a 47" snowblower for my recently purchased 1025R and want to ensure that I have the proper counter-weight to be within John Deere spec - and provable, should anything happen to the 4WD hubs down the road where JD might require proof of proper ballast.

    I have really only used the front end loader once for a brief job of moving 4 yards of sifted, black topsoil around my yard... and would probably use the FEL just occasionally for an odd yard/property task. So, mostly it will be detached from my tractor. The snowblower, would obviously be attached the duration of a Michigan winter.

    Ballast box weight currently consists of 'tubes' of sand - - -I had them in the trunk of my daughters rear wheel drive Mustang to give her better snow traction. Probably not quite enough weight for the ballast box though.

    I can't find specs on what John Deere actually require for ballast box weight - in total - when using a front end loader or a snow-blower. The FEL owners manual did show a few charts that merely specified what 'sand' and 'concrete' weight would add when the ballast box was filled either material... something like 274# using sand and 374# when using concrete.

    Concrete would be permanent. Is there any reason why I *wouldn't* want to use concrete?

    And, is the weight of a ballast box filled with concrete enough weight in the rear when using a Front End Loader? If not, what is the solution??

    I hesitate filling my rear tires with 'beat juice', because I don't want tire ruts in my yard when mowing soft ground in the spring / late fall.

    So - can anyone tell me what the recommended ballast weight should be when using a front end loader/snow blower.... and what I might do to achieve this with the JD Ballast Box I have?

    Thanks.

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    All the ballast specs are shown in the loader owners manual.


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    I have 54" snowblower and use the JD ballast box full of gravel. I also have 50 lb. wheel weights. That works well on a sloping 200' driveway asphalt for me. I use chains on the turf tires.
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    Fill your ballast box, assuming it is the JD box, full of sand and you will be fine. Mine has had sand in it now through 4 tractors and I never had a problem with the FEL carrying gravel or anything else I wanted. I now have the box on a 2032r and it is still ok for weight. If you think you need more through a few blocks on top of the box or something else heavy. I never liked the idea of concreting in my weight box. While it works for many on here and there has been some great ideas in what they have done. I am just not one to permanently seal a box for just one purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillieS View Post
    Fill your ballast box, assuming it is the JD box, full of sand and you will be fine. Mine has had sand in it now through 4 tractors and I never had a problem with the FEL carrying gravel or anything else I wanted. I now have the box on a 2032r and it is still ok for weight. If you think you need more through a few blocks on top of the box or something else heavy. I never liked the idea of concreting in my weight box. While it works for many on here and there has been some great ideas in what they have done. I am just not one to permanently seal a box for just one purpose.
    I do have the JD Ballast Box.... my one question with sand is; sand might absorb and store moisture - wouldn't that work to rust out the metal ballast box? I did buy some Herculiner Roll-on Truck Bed Coating, which seems to be highly rate.... and I think if I applied that *first* to the inside of the ballast box before putting sand in it.... I would be golden with no worries of interior rust?

    https://www.amazon.com/Herculiner-HC...d%2Bliner&th=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennyd View Post
    All the ballast specs are shown in the loader owners manual.
    I will take another look - I didn't see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeFriday1979 View Post
    I will take another look - I didn't see them.
    Section 15 of the manual

    Preparing the Tractor

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    Section 15 of the manual

    Preparing the Tractor

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    Thanks! I came across it when I took a second look.... don't know how I missed it!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeFriday1979 View Post
    I do have the JD Ballast Box.... my one question with sand is; sand might absorb and store moisture - wouldn't that work to rust out the metal ballast box? I did buy some Herculiner Roll-on Truck Bed Coating, which seems to be highly rate.... and I think if I applied that *first* to the inside of the ballast box before putting sand in it.... I would be golden with no worries of interior rust?

    https://www.amazon.com/Herculiner-HC...d%2Bliner&th=1
    I have had sand in mine four 10 years now. It has not rusted through nd mine sets outside in the open rain, snow what ever mother nature through at it. But that would be a good idea to paint something inside of it.
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    I filled mine with tube sand also. I got a great deal on the open and damaged tubes at the end of season. I filled it to within 2 inches of the top. All I did to prep mine was to tape up the corners inside the box so the sand didn't leak out. I also put in 2 pieces of 4" PVC pipe with caps and another piece of 2" that I had in the garage. I use them for holding tools.

    I just happen to have it hooked up, I've been pulling a fallen oak out of the woods behind me...

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    If you search this site, you'll find some really nice looking ballast box builds!


    There's 8+ gallons of -25 degree window washer fluid in each rear tire too.
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