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    Adding Backhoe to 1025r

    I'm looking at adding the backhoe to my 2014 1025r with 150 hours on it. Just looking for a few thoughts on the the options of buying a whole unit
    (new TLB) or just adding the backhoe along with needed upgrades to operate the hoe. I have the auto-attach 54 which I think I would keep even if buying a new unit. Also, should I look at the slightly larger 2 series (same engine size),just to get the larger frame.
    Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FC2301 View Post
    I'm looking at adding the backhoe to my 2014 1025r with 150 hours on it. Just looking for a few thoughts on the the options of buying a whole unit
    (new TLB) or just adding the backhoe along with needed upgrades to operate the hoe. I have the auto-attach 54 which I think I would keep even if buying a new unit. Also, should I look at the slightly larger 2 series (same engine size),just to get the larger frame.
    Any thoughts?
    Good point. I would think you'd get a better deal moving up.
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    I just recently bought my 1025R. I was really on the fence about the backhoe. I asked how much it would save me to buy it now rather than having it installed later, looking for a little motivator to bite the bullet. The savings.... A whopping $400. So, based on what my dealer told me, I don't think trading in or up is going to make a real big difference for you.
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    Like anything, it depends on what you want to do with the BH. Larger tractor, more capabilities. The 1025R with a BH is pretty strong but it is a small tractor so it is all about, how much time do you have and how deep do you need to dig. I know the 1025R BH spec says you can dig 8' deep. Good luck trying to do that!! Realistically, if you are digging a ditch, 4' deep is more like it. Digging 8' deep is not going to happen unless you are digging a hole directly behind the BH and it is just a hole. NOT VERY REALISTIC!!

    Here are a few pictures of the kinds of materials and what I have done with mine. As you can see, the BH will dig shale but it takes some patience! I dug all the wiring and plumbing trenches when I built my garage back in 2014 with my 1025R. I would estimate I dug at least 300' of trench, all 3' to 4' deep, not to mention all the other digging that I have done with my BH.
    Personally, I am pretty familiar with equipment and it's capabilities, the 1025R with the BH is pretty impressive for a small tractor. My tractor is an FILB so I did not add my BH. There have been some other forum members who have added a BH and there are threads posted concerning this topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Bite View Post
    I just recently bought my 1025R. I was really on the fence about the backhoe. I asked how much it would save me to buy it now rather than having it installed later, looking for a little motivator to bite the bullet. The savings.... A whopping $400. So, based on what my dealer told me, I don't think trading in or up is going to make a real big difference for you.
    For me it was about the 0% financing. I could roll the back hoe into the tractor purchase where I couldn't later on. I've used the hoe exactly twice in 3 years but I have it when I want it.

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    On the question of trading in your 1025 for another 1025 TLB, for me it would depend on the numbers. Though your 1025 has really low hours, it will still be considered used by your dealer or future buyer, so you will lose some $'s there. The other thing to think about is that you have probably worked out any bugs on your machine, and probably will not experience any surprises in the coming years. Getting a new tractor, you could get one of those few lemons that appear every so often ... just sayin'.

    So weigh a new TLB tractor with 0%, the difference in the trade-in and see what works for you.

    As for trading up ... that depends on what you need in a tractor. Bigger tractor is more powerful, but it will be larger and heavier. On my small property, bigger won't fit a well, and much of my "driving" is over lawn, though the damage is very slight with my 1026, whenever the grass is moist, there is some damage/compression. A larger tractor would just make that lawn damage a bit worse. Sure I could use and want a larger tractor, just not practical for me. Your situation will be different.

    Then again, you need to run the numbers.

    Best way to start is to talk with your dealer and see what your trade-in would be, the price of a BH, price of a new 1025 TLB, and the price of a new 2 series. And if you do upgrade, will your 54 mower fit? So don't forget to figure that in.

    Just my 2 cents. Good Luck.
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    Do you have a loader on your 1025R? I don't see it mentioned. If you are adding a BH, you will need a loader attach the BH frame to. If you get a new 1025 TLB, your 54 inch deck will fit after you add the lift kit and auto connect, if you go to a 2 series you will need a 2 series deck/lift kit. The 2017 2 series is all new with an expensive auto connect option. If you already have a loader on your 1025R you will need the BH,frame kit and power beyond kit. The frame kit includes the swivel seat frame,light extenders and bracket to relocate the tool box to the side.
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    Unless you have a lot of projects that need a backhoe, you might be better of renting a backhoe, or even a mini excavator when you need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W9GFO View Post
    Unless you have a lot of projects that need a backhoe, you might be better of renting a backhoe, or even a mini excavator when you need it.
    I have to agree in my situation renting would have been better, actually I could have paid an excavator operator to come out and do what I needed to do. But don't get me wrong its nice to have the back hoe, and I bought mine as TLB because it could be financed into the 0% interest rate. I used my BH on a couple of projects and it was so nice to do this at my leisure but doesn't justify the price I paid for it. Now that I have it I will never get rid of it, but I have used it more at friends and family property than mine.

    The 1025r TLB will dig good for trenching, it will trench a hole 3-4' deep but really cant go any further unless you dig directly below the boom and even then I really question the 8'.

    Bottom line - I'd buy again on the 1025r, even though its not feasible for me. You wont use it often or even at all but its always there when you need it and you wont need a ballast box -
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