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    Don't call me a genius, yet lol

    Ok so awhile back I posted a question about the bucket and if it had an auto up type feature. Well I think it does. Moving some snow tonight I wanted some answers to what I experienced last time.

    When in float mode, and you're bringing the bucket up to dump, only hold up for 2 seconds then slide right to dump. Keep holding until the dump position is in full down, and then the whole bucket assembly moves into the air to keep it up high enough that whatever you were carrying can fall to the ground.

    If that's confusing I'm sorry but it's hard to explain! I'm going to try to get a video of it up on YouTube but I'm not tech savvy at all. If you need clarification please ask!
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    I think what you are referring to is a mix of dump/lift. If you get it just right, you can do both at the same time. But it is difficult to make it happen. What you are doing is splitting the hydraulic flow between the dump or curl and lift functions. Only occasionally can I get mine to do that and I find that I lose too much control anyway, so I rarely even try it. Another way you can test the split function is to have something heavy on the 3pt and try to raise the FEL at the same time you are trying to raise the 3pt. That will best demonstrate that you are really just splitting the hydraulic function as you will see how one affects the other, especially if you are at idle.

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    It's not doing both at the same time. When you curl all the way down and it stops, then the whole unit raises. Like each is a separate task but they flow seamlessly. As soon as it's all the way curled down, it raises the whole bucket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upstater View Post
    It's not doing both at the same time. When you curl all the way down and it stops, then the whole unit raises. Like each is a separate task but they flow seamlessly. As soon as it's all the way curled down, it raises the whole bucket.
    Unless we are misunderstanding your description, it sounds like something is wrong. Curling the bucket from angled up to dump, regardless of regen should not in any way cause a change to the height of the lift arms. That type of action could in fact be dangerous in certain situations. You can move the bucket up and down all you want and the height should stay exactly the same. They are two completely different hydraulics circuits with independent control valves.

    A video would certainly help to understand what you are seeing.
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    I think what ddinham was describing is what you are seeing. When you're curling or dumping you have the lever off center activating the boom circuit. If you think about it, you would not want a loader having an auto up feature due to safety concerns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Upstater View Post
    It's not doing both at the same time. When you curl all the way down and it stops, then the whole unit raises. Like each is a separate task but they flow seamlessly. As soon as it's all the way curled down, it raises the whole bucket.
    Sounds like you have the lever in a position to both dump the bucket and raise the boom at the same time. What you describe is normal and not any type of "auto" function. What is happening is that the hydraulic flow is choosing the path of least resistance. When the bucket reaches the end of the stroke and can go no further then the hydraulic flow chooses the other path. The same thing will happen whenever you try to do two functions at once. Only one will operate, when it can't go any further the other function will run - then when it can't go any further the relief valve will be forced open and you'll hear squealing.

    If you are very careful with positioning the lever (feathering) you can make it do both functions at the same time.
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    Thanks! Good info.
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    Great explanation W9GFO.👍
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