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    Counter Weight/Backhoe Question

    Is it a "no-no" to fill the backhoe bucket with heavy material to get extra counter weight when using maximum forklift weight on the front end? By filling the 12" bucket with a bag or "slugs" of lead - would that be too heavy and mess something up on the backhoe when driving around over bumpy ground?

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    I would think you will be fine for situations that require it, but I would not want it in there any other time.
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    If you have the BH attached to the tractor, the BH is plenty of ballast for the FEL with forks attached. These machines will only pick about 850 lbs. with forks if you keep the load close to the carriage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray_PA View Post
    If you have the BH attached to the tractor, the BH is plenty of ballast for the FEL with forks attached. These machines will only pick about 850 lbs. with forks if you keep the load close to the carriage.
    I was transporting full 49" buckets of muck last summer with my backhoe on and the load only high enough to keep the material in the loader and had some real pucker moments when crossing uneven terrain, This was not hard to lift the bucket so not fully maximum capacity but close. I could see why the op might be contemplating more rear ballast if he is not just moving things a short distance on level ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray_PA View Post
    If you have the BH attached to the tractor, the BH is plenty of ballast for the FEL with forks attached. These machines will only pick about 850 lbs. with forks if you keep the load close to the carriage.
    Ray,
    The 4:50 mark of this video shows the backhoe being insufficient ballast for the load I had on the front.
    I suspect this load was well north of 1000 lbs, as I couldn't lift it any higher than I had it there.
    Oh, and I have Rimguard loaded tires, and the 50lb wheel weights. The backhoe is just not enough in these extreme loads, at least for my tractor.

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    It's 50/50 does the BH add ballast yes,because of the design is it top heavy,yes on a slope can you swing the BH to one side and lower the stabilizers to help counter yes is it the best way no.If you were doing loader work the BH can make the tractor feel tippy.In this situation weight on the 3 pt set halfway or lower is a better safer option.
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    More is almost always better, when it comes to ballast.

    I've thrown a couple of 95 lb lead weights in the backhoe bucket before. It was all the difference I needed. The extra weight is low and provides good ballast.
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    When I am lifting heavy loads I just hook my 600# tiller on the back of the quick hitch. That will counter anything my bucket can lift.
    In fact with I have to use the tiller I load 5-6 cinder blocks in the loader for front ballast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timmarks View Post
    Ray,
    The 4:50 mark of this video shows the backhoe being insufficient ballast for the load I had on the front.
    I suspect this load was well north of 1000 lbs, as I couldn't lift it any higher than I had it there.
    Oh, and I have Rimguard loaded tires, and the 50lb wheel weights. The backhoe is just not enough in these extreme loads, at least for my tractor.
    And Tim - did I notice correctly that you then extended the backhoe farther out the back to help with the balancing act???
    Last edited by konakid; 12-18-2016 at 01:07 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timmarks View Post
    Ray,
    The 4:50 mark of this video shows the backhoe being insufficient ballast for the load I had on the front.
    I suspect this load was well north of 1000 lbs, as I couldn't lift it any higher than I had it there.
    Oh, and I have Rimguard loaded tires, and the 50lb wheel weights. The backhoe is just not enough in these extreme loads, at least for my tractor.
    My opinion, you are overloaded. I would simply make an extra trip instead of testing the limits of the machine. I agree with your last sentence.
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