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    Whatever happened to good 'ole rubber?

    I guess this is a bit of a tool related rant. As the temperatures start to dip down I am reminded that they just don't use good 'ole rubber much anymore. All those cords, hoses and cables that were so nice and pliable during the summer months have now suddenly started to petrify into a semi-rigid plastic.

    I was out in the garage trying to coil up the extra wire from my solar Battery Tender today. All summer long the cord is nice and soft and pliable. But now in just 40-degree temperatures it has become so stiff that you can't even roll it up.

    I have a nozzle hose on a fuel tank that becomes so stiff in the winter that you can hold it with a 5-foot length sticking straight out stiff as a chunk of PVC. You can't really bend it very easy. I suppose you could break it over your knee. ;-)

    Rubber oh rubber, where art thou?
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    It's going to cost you a few more bucks, well ok, maybe more than a few but you could go to your local electric equipment supplier and buy a length of SOOW or SOEW cord and attach your own plug and receptacle.

    There are "arctic" extension cords sold but I don't know if they hold up in 100F conditions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff B View Post
    It's going to cost you a few more bucks, well ok, maybe more than a few but you could go to your local electric equipment supplier and buy a length of SOOW or SOEW cord and attach your own plug and receptacle.

    There are "arctic" extension cords sold but I don't know if they hold up in 100F conditions?
    I have one of those blue arctic extension cords on a little electric snow blower that I use for sidewalks and while it might not get as stiff as a regular cord, it is far from flexible when temps are below freezing.
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    Well, rubber is a petroleum byproduct, so I guess thats why its not so common anymore.
    I personally dont mind too much (ok, thats a lie, some things I like the way they were), as I use low temp electrical cords anyway, and for air hoses, which is the thing I hate dealing with the most in the cold, I use Plyovic air hoses. I had a rubber hose, and it deteriorated so fast I couldnt believe it. Didnt make it a year. Could have been junk before, but thats bad. The Plyovic hoses I have are excellent in the cold, and very durable.
    The electrical cords I use are generally 12 gauge, and are plenty flexible down to at least 0. Below that and Im not outside playing with them much.
    I do have one cheapie low temp cord, and its not as flexible as my good one, but still better than the standard cords when it gets cold.
    Gas can nozzles are a huge pet peeve of mine. Nobody makes a good one anymore, and replacements for the old cans are JUNK.
    I keep putting it off, but Im severely tempted to just buy a few of the Scepter jerry cans and call it a day. I can get them for gas and for diesel, and the spouts for those are easy to find and work very well.

    I suppose the implied rule here is that you can still get the advantage most times, but have to pay more to get it. Cheaping out mostly ends up in regret.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    I guess this is a bit of a tool related rant. As the temperatures start to dip down I am reminded that they just don't use good 'ole rubber much anymore. All those cords, hoses and cables that were so nice and pliable during the summer months have now suddenly started to petrify into a semi-rigid plastic.

    I was out in the garage trying to coil up the extra wire from my solar Battery Tender today. All summer long the cord is nice and soft and pliable. But now in just 40-degree temperatures it has become so stiff that you can't even roll it up.

    I have a nozzle hose on a fuel tank that becomes so stiff in the winter that you can hold it with a 5-foot length sticking straight out stiff as a chunk of PVC. You can't really bend it very easy. I suppose you could break it over your knee. ;-)

    Rubber oh rubber, where art thou?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaJim View Post
    Well, rubber is a petroleum byproduct, so I guess thats why its not so common anymore.
    I personally dont mind too much (ok, thats a lie, some things I like the way they were), as I use low temp electrical cords anyway, and for air hoses, which is the thing I hate dealing with the most in the cold, I use Plyovic air hoses. I had a rubber hose, and it deteriorated so fast I couldnt believe it. Didnt make it a year. Could have been junk before, but thats bad. The Plyovic hoses I have are excellent in the cold, and very durable.
    The electrical cords I use are generally 12 gauge, and are plenty flexible down to at least 0. Below that and Im not outside playing with them much.
    I do have one cheapie low temp cord, and its not as flexible as my good one, but still better than the standard cords when it gets cold.
    Gas can nozzles are a huge pet peeve of mine. Nobody makes a good one anymore, and replacements for the old cans are JUNK.
    I keep putting it off, but Im severely tempted to just buy a few of the Scepter jerry cans and call it a day. I can get them for gas and for diesel, and the spouts for those are easy to find and work very well.

    I suppose the implied rule here is that you can still get the advantage most times, but have to pay more to get it. Cheaping out mostly ends up in regret.

    In the facility I maintain we had many problems with compressed air hoses bursting, cracking and melting from various chemical exposure.
    I switched over to Parker 801 Push Lock hose which feels and acts rubbery but I'm not sure of its exact composition.
    We normally use 1/4 ID hose which is 801-4.

    I don't use the push lock fittings because in 1/4 they are a bear to push together, I just use standard barbed fittings with Oetiker clamps.
    Have no issues at all now unless someone drags the hose across a grinding wheel or belt sander by accident.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndianaJim View Post
    Well, rubber is a petroleum byproduct, so I guess thats why its not so common anymore.
    I personally dont mind too much (ok, thats a lie, some things I like the way they were), as I use low temp electrical cords anyway, and for air hoses, which is the thing I hate dealing with the most in the cold, I use Plyovic air hoses. I had a rubber hose, and it deteriorated so fast I couldnt believe it. Didnt make it a year. Could have been junk before, but thats bad. The Plyovic hoses I have are excellent in the cold, and very durable.
    The electrical cords I use are generally 12 gauge, and are plenty flexible down to at least 0. Below that and Im not outside playing with them much.
    I do have one cheapie low temp cord, and its not as flexible as my good one, but still better than the standard cords when it gets cold.
    Gas can nozzles are a huge pet peeve of mine. Nobody makes a good one anymore, and replacements for the old cans are JUNK.
    I keep putting it off, but Im severely tempted to just buy a few of the Scepter jerry cans and call it a day. I can get them for gas and for diesel, and the spouts for those are easy to find and work very well.

    I suppose the implied rule here is that you can still get the advantage most times, but have to pay more to get it. Cheaping out mostly ends up in regret.
    The hose is on my Roughneck 30-gallon gas caddy. It was plenty pliable in the summer but as soon as the temps dip it literally becomes a rigid pipe. I'm not kidding, I can hold it back at the tank and it will stand out horizontal for 5-feet. I found a replacement from HMC that stays totally pliable in the winter (and is like a wet noodle in the summer). :-)

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